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From: Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	david@fromorbit.com, leon@kernel.org, sagi@grimberg.me,
	axboe@kernel.dk, joro@8bytes.org, brauner@kernel.org,
	hare@suse.de, willy@infradead.org, djwong@kernel.org,
	john.g.garry@oracle.com, ritesh.list@gmail.com,
	p.raghav@samsung.com, gost.dev@samsung.com, da.gomez@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] breaking the 512 KiB IO boundary on x86_64
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 21:43:31 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <796adeb4-2b7e-4d01-866b-1f47b6eb10e5@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9w7Nz-CxWSqj__H@kbusch-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On 3/20/2025 9:28 PM, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 08:37:05AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> On 3/20/25 7:18 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 04:41:11AM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
>>>> We've been constrained to a max single 512 KiB IO for a while now on x86_64.
>>> No, we absolutely haven't.  I'm regularly seeing multi-MB I/O on both
>>> SCSI and NVMe setup.
>> Is NVME_MAX_KB_SZ the current maximum I/O size for PCIe NVMe
>> controllers? From drivers/nvme/host/pci.c:
> Yes, this is the driver's limit. The device's limit may be lower or
> higher.
> 
> I allocate out of hugetlbfs to reliably send direct IO at this size
> because the nvme driver's segment count is limited to 128. The driver
> doesn't impose a segment size limit, though. If each segment is only 4k
> (a common occurance), I guess that's where Luis is getting the 512K
> limit?

Even if we hit that segment count limit (128), the I/O can go fine as 
block layer will split that, while application still thinks it's single 
I/O.
But if we don't want this internal split (for LBS) or using passthrough 
path, we will see failure.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-20 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-20 11:41 Luis Chamberlain
2025-03-20 12:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-20 13:29   ` Daniel Gomez
2025-03-20 14:31     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-20 13:47 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-03-20 14:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-21  9:14     ` Daniel Gomez
2025-03-20 14:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-20 15:37   ` Bart Van Assche
2025-03-20 15:58     ` Keith Busch
2025-03-20 16:13       ` Kanchan Joshi [this message]
2025-03-20 16:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-20 21:50         ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-03-20 21:46       ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-03-20 21:40   ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-03-20 18:46 ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-20 21:30   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-21  2:13     ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-21  3:05       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-21  4:56         ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-03-21  5:00           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-21 18:39             ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-21 16:38       ` Keith Busch
2025-03-21 17:21         ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-03-21 18:55           ` Keith Busch

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