From: Tong Tiangen <tongtiangen@huawei.com>
To: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/5] arm64: add support for ARCH_HAS_COPY_MC
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 10:36:49 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <78f82bf6-ec47-6b10-7c05-2189cc262f13@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z+bXE7UNWFLEfhQC@e129823.arm.com>
在 2025/3/29 1:06, Yeoreum Yun 写道:
> Hi,
>
>>
>>
>> 在 2025/2/13 0:21, Catalin Marinas 写道:
>>> (catching up with old threads)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 10:42:54AM +0800, Tong Tiangen wrote:
>>>> For the arm64 kernel, when it processes hardware memory errors for
>>>> synchronize notifications(do_sea()), if the errors is consumed within the
>>>> kernel, the current processing is panic. However, it is not optimal.
>>>>
>>>> Take copy_from/to_user for example, If ld* triggers a memory error, even in
>>>> kernel mode, only the associated process is affected. Killing the user
>>>> process and isolating the corrupt page is a better choice.
>>>
>>> I agree that killing the user process and isolating the page is a better
>>> choice but I don't see how the latter happens after this patch. Which
>>> page would be isolated?
>>
>> The SEA is triggered when the page with hardware error is read. After
>> that, the page is isolated in memory_failure() (mf). The processing of
>> mf is mentioned in the comments of do_sea().
>>
>> /*
>> * APEI claimed this as a firmware-first notification.
>> * Some processing deferred to task_work before ret_to_user().
>> */
>>
>> Some processing include mf.
>>
>>>
>>>> Add new fixup type EX_TYPE_KACCESS_ERR_ZERO_MEM_ERR to identify insn
>>>> that can recover from memory errors triggered by access to kernel memory,
>>>> and this fixup type is used in __arch_copy_to_user(), This make the regular
>>>> copy_to_user() will handle kernel memory errors.
>>>
>>> Is the assumption that the error on accessing kernel memory is
>>> transient? There's no way to isolate the kernel page and also no point
>>> in isolating the destination page either.
>>
>> Yes, it's transient, the kernel page in mf can't be isolated, the
>> transient access (ld) of this kernel page is currently expected to kill
>> the user-mode process to avoid error spread.
>
> I'm not sure about how this works.
> IIUC, the memory_failure() wouldn't kill any process if page which
> raises sea is kernel page (because this wasn't mapped).
right.
>
> But, to mark the kernel page as posision, I think it also need to call
> apei_claim_sea() in !user_mode().
> What about calling the apei_claim_sea() when fix_exception_me()
> successed only in !user_mode() case?
This was discussed with Mark in V12:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240528085915.1955987-3-tongtiangen@huawei.com/
Sorry for didn't catch your reply in time:)
Thanks,
Tong.
>
> Thanks.
>>
>> The SEA processes synchronization errors. Only hardware errors on the
>> source page can be detected (Through synchronous ld insn) and processed.
>> The destination page cannot be processed.
>>
>>>
>>
> .
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-03 2:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-09 2:42 [PATCH v13 0/5]arm64: add ARCH_HAS_COPY_MC support Tong Tiangen
2024-12-09 2:42 ` [PATCH v13 1/5] uaccess: add generic fallback version of copy_mc_to_user() Tong Tiangen
2024-12-09 2:42 ` [PATCH v13 2/5] arm64: add support for ARCH_HAS_COPY_MC Tong Tiangen
2025-02-12 16:21 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-14 1:44 ` Tong Tiangen
2025-03-24 16:54 ` Luck, Tony
2025-04-03 2:48 ` Tong Tiangen
2025-03-28 17:06 ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-04-03 2:36 ` Tong Tiangen [this message]
2024-12-09 2:42 ` [PATCH v13 3/5] mm/hwpoison: return -EFAULT when copy fail in copy_mc_[user]_highpage() Tong Tiangen
2024-12-09 2:42 ` [PATCH v13 4/5] arm64: support copy_mc_[user]_highpage() Tong Tiangen
2025-02-12 17:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-14 1:45 ` Tong Tiangen
2025-02-14 2:49 ` Tong Tiangen
2025-02-14 17:24 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-17 8:07 ` Tong Tiangen
2025-02-17 14:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-18 11:51 ` Tong Tiangen
2025-02-18 19:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-03-04 14:10 ` Tong Tiangen
2024-12-09 2:42 ` [PATCH v13 5/5] arm64: introduce copy_mc_to_kernel() implementation Tong Tiangen
2025-02-12 17:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-14 2:57 ` Tong Tiangen
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