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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/17] mm, compaction: more reliably increase direct compaction priority
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:37:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <78b8fc60-ddd8-ae74-4f1a-f4bcb9933016@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160706053954.GE23627@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE>

On 07/06/2016 07:39 AM, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:54:32AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> During reclaim/compaction loop, compaction priority can be increased by the
>> should_compact_retry() function, but the current code is not optimal. Priority
>> is only increased when compaction_failed() is true, which means that compaction
>> has scanned the whole zone. This may not happen even after multiple attempts
>> with the lower priority due to parallel activity, so we might needlessly
>> struggle on the lower priority and possibly run out of compaction retry
>> attempts in the process.
>>
>> We can remove these corner cases by increasing compaction priority regardless
>> of compaction_failed(). Examining further the compaction result can be
>> postponed only after reaching the highest priority. This is a simple solution
>> and we don't need to worry about reaching the highest priority "too soon" here,
>> because hen should_compact_retry() is called it means that the system is
>> already struggling and the allocation is supposed to either try as hard as
>> possible, or it cannot fail at all. There's not much point staying at lower
>> priorities with heuristics that may result in only partial compaction.
>> Also we now count compaction retries only after reaching the highest priority.
> 
> I'm not sure that this patch is safe. Deferring and skip-bit in
> compaction is highly related to reclaim/compaction. Just ignoring them and (almost)
> unconditionally increasing compaction priority will result in less
> reclaim and less success rate on compaction.

I don't see why less reclaim? Reclaim is always attempted before
compaction and compaction priority doesn't affect it. And as long as
reclaim wants to retry, should_compact_retry() isn't even called, so the
priority stays. I wanted to change that in v1, but Michal suggested I
shouldn't.

> And, as a necessarily, it
> would trigger OOM more frequently.

OOM is only allowed for costly orders. If reclaim itself doesn't want to
retry for non-costly orders anymore, and we finally start calling
should_compact_retry(), then I guess the system is really struggling
already and eventual OOM wouldn't be premature?

> It would not be your fault. This patch is reasonable in current
> situation. It just makes current things more deterministic
> although I dislike that current things and this patch would amplify
> those problem.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-15 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-24  9:54 [PATCH v3 00/17] make direct compaction more deterministic Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] mm, compaction: don't isolate PageWriteback pages in MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT mode Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] mm, page_alloc: set alloc_flags only once in slowpath Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-30 14:44   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] mm, page_alloc: don't retry initial attempt " Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-30 15:03   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] mm, page_alloc: restructure direct compaction handling " Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] mm, page_alloc: make THP-specific decisions more generic Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] mm, thp: remove __GFP_NORETRY from khugepaged and madvised allocations Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] mm, compaction: introduce direct compaction priority Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24 11:39   ` kbuild test robot
2016-06-24 11:51     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] mm, compaction: simplify contended compaction handling Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] mm, compaction: make whole_zone flag ignore cached scanner positions Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-06  5:09   ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-07-18  9:12     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-19  6:44       ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-07-19  6:54         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] mm, compaction: cleanup unused functions Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24 11:53   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] mm, compaction: add the ultimate direct compaction priority Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] mm, compaction: more reliably increase " Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-06  5:39   ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-07-15 13:37     ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2016-07-18  4:41       ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-07-18 12:21         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-19  4:53           ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-07-19  7:42             ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] mm, compaction: use correct watermark when checking allocation success Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-06  5:47   ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-07-18  9:23     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] mm, compaction: create compact_gap wrapper Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] mm, compaction: use proper alloc_flags in __compaction_suitable() Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] mm, compaction: require only min watermarks for non-costly orders Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-24  9:54 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] mm, vmscan: make compaction_ready() more accurate and readable Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-06  5:55   ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-07-18 11:48     ` Vlastimil Babka

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