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From: "Li, Haicheng" <haicheng.li@intel.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Zheng, Shaohui" <shaohui.zheng@intel.com>
Cc: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"haicheng.li@linux.intel.com" <haicheng.li@linux.intel.com>,
	"ak@linux.intel.com" <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	"shaohui.zheng@linux.intel.com" <shaohui.zheng@linux.intel.com>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [2/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: infrastructure of NUMA hotplug emulation
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 23:14:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <789F9655DD1B8F43B48D77C5D30659732FE95E6E@shsmsx501.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011201645230.10618@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

David Rientjes wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Shaohui Zheng wrote:
> 
>> nr_node_ids is the possible node number. when we do regular memory
>> online, it is oline to a possible node, and it is already counted in
>> to nr_node_ids. 
>> 
>> if you increment nr_node_ids dynamically when node online, it causes
>> a lot of problems. Many data are initialized according to
>> nr_node_ids. That is our experience when we debug the emulator.
>> 
> 
> I think what we'll end up wanting to do is something like this, which
> adds 
> a numa=possible=<N> parameter for x86; this will add an additional N
> possible nodes to node_possible_map that we can use to online later. 
> It 
> also adds a new /sys/devices/system/memory/add_node file which takes a
> typical "size@start" value to hot-add an emulated node.  For example,
> using "mem=2G numa=possible=1" on the command line and doing
> echo 128M@0x80000000" > /sys/devices/system/memory/add_node would
> hot-add 
> a node of 128M.
> 
> Comments?

Sorry for the late response as I'm in a biz trip recently.

David, your original concern is just about powerful/flexibility. I'm sure our implementation can better meets such requirments.

IMHO, I don't see any powerful/flexibility from your patch, compared to our original implementation. you just make things more complex and mess.

Why not use "numa=hide=N*size" as originally implemented?
- later you just need to online the node once you want. And it naturally/exactly emulates the behavior that current HW provides.
- N is the possible node number. And we can use 128M as the default size for each hidden node if user doesn't specify a size.
- If user wants more mem for hidden node, he just needs specify the "size".
- besides, user can also use "mem=" to hide more mem and later use mem-add i/f to freely attach more mem to the hidden node during runtime.

Your patch introduces additional dependency on "mem=", but ours is simple and flexibly compatible with "mem=" and "numa=emu". 


-haicheng
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-21 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-17  2:07 [0/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator - Introduction & Feedbacks shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [1/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: add function to hide memory region via e820 table shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  8:16   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18  9:20     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18 21:16       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-19  0:12         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-21  0:45           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 14:00             ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 21:33               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [2/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: infrastructure of NUMA hotplug emulation shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  8:16   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  7:51     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17 21:10       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18  4:14         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  6:27           ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-18  5:27             ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18 21:24               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-19  0:32                 ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-21  0:48                   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21  2:28                     ` [patch 1/2] x86: add numa=possible command line option David Rientjes
2010-11-21  2:28                       ` [patch 2/2] mm: add node hotplug emulation David Rientjes
2010-11-21 17:34                         ` Greg KH
2010-11-21 21:48                           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 23:08                             ` [patch 2/2 v2] " David Rientjes
2010-11-22  0:56                               ` Greg KH
2010-11-28  1:52                                 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-28  5:17                                   ` Greg KH
2010-11-30  0:04                                     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 14:26                       ` [patch 1/2] x86: add numa=possible command line option Américo Wang
2010-11-21 21:46                         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-22 15:43                           ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 15:14                     ` Li, Haicheng [this message]
2010-11-21 21:42                       ` [2/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: infrastructure of NUMA hotplug emulation David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:19           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [3/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: Userland interface to hotplug-add fake offlined nodes shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  8:16   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [4/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: Abstract cpu register functions shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [5/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: support cpu probe/release in x86 shaohui.zheng
2010-11-21 14:45   ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22  0:01     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-22 15:51       ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22 23:29         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [6/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: Fake CPU socket with logical CPU on x86 shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [7/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: extend memory probe interface to support NUMA shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17 18:50   ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 21:18     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17 21:55       ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 22:44         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17 23:00           ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 23:17             ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 16:59           ` Aaron Durbin
2010-11-18  4:48       ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  6:24         ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-18 21:28           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:31         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18  4:36     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-19  7:51     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-19 16:36       ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [8/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: documentation shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17 23:06   ` Randy Dunlap
2010-11-18  2:31     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-21 15:03   ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 15:16     ` Li, Haicheng
2010-11-21 23:33     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-22 16:04       ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22 23:23         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17  5:22 ` [0/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator - Introduction & Feedbacks Paul Mundt
2010-11-19  5:54   ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17  9:26 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-11-18  2:03   ` Shaohui Zheng

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