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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
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Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 04/10] mm: thp: Support allocation of anonymous multi-size THP
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:12:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <787eb131-759c-4cd3-a2b7-39caf818cffc@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <369ec8d3-ef6a-4a4e-84e2-2c91b8293929@redhat.com>

On 07/12/2023 15:01, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 07.12.23 15:45, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 07/12/2023 13:28, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, but you know from the first loop which order is applicable (and will be
>>>>> fed to the second loop) and could just pte_unmap(pte) + tryalloc. If that
>>>>> fails,
>>>>> remap and try with the next orders.
>>>>
>>>> You mean something like this?
>>>>
>>>>      pte = pte_offset_map(vmf->pmd, vmf->address & PMD_MASK);
>>>>      if (!pte)
>>>>          return ERR_PTR(-EAGAIN);
>>>>
>>>>      order = highest_order(orders);
>>>>      while (orders) {
>>>>          addr = ALIGN_DOWN(vmf->address, PAGE_SIZE << order);
>>>>          if (!pte_range_none(pte + pte_index(addr), 1 << order)) {
>>>>              order = next_order(&orders, order);
>>>>              continue;
>>>>          }
>>>>
>>>>          pte_unmap(pte);
>>>>                  folio = vma_alloc_folio(gfp, order, vma, addr, true);
>>>>          if (folio) {
>>>>              clear_huge_page(&folio->page, vmf->address, 1 << order);
>>>>              return folio;
>>>>          }
>>>>
>>>>          pte = pte_offset_map(vmf->pmd, vmf->address & PMD_MASK);
>>>>          if (!pte)
>>>>              return ERR_PTR(-EAGAIN);
>>>>
>>>>          order = next_order(&orders, order);
>>>>      }
>>>>
>>>>      pte_unmap(pte);
>>>>
>>>> I don't really like that because if high order folio allocations fail, then you
>>>> are calling pte_range_none() again for the next lower order; once that check
>>>> has
>>>> succeeded for an order it shouldn't be required for any lower orders. In this
>>>> case you also have lots of pte map/unmap.
>>>
>>> I see what you mean.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The original version feels more efficient to me.
>>> Yes it is. Adding in some comments might help, like
>>>
>>> /*
>>>   * Find the largest order where the aligned range is completely prot_none().
>>> Note
>>>   * that all remaining orders will be completely prot_none().
>>>   */
>>> ...
>>>
>>> /* Try allocating the largest of the remaining orders. */
>>
>> OK added.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That would make the code certainly easier to understand. That "orders"
>>>>> magic of
>>>>> constructing, filtering, walking is confusing :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I might find some time today to see if there is an easy way to cleanup all
>>>>> what
>>>>> I spelled out above. It really is a mess. But likely that cleanup could be
>>>>> deferred (but you're touching it, so ... :) ).
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to ignore the last 5 words. I heard the "that cleanup could be
>>>> deferred" part loud and clear though :)
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> If we could stop passing orders into thp_vma_allowable_orders(), that would
>>> probably
>>> be the biggest win. It's just all a confusing mess.
>>
>>
>>
>> I tried an approach like you suggested in the other thread originally, but I
>> struggled to define exactly what "thp_vma_configured_orders()" should mean;
>> Ideally, I just want "all the THP orders that are currently enabled for this
>> VMA+flags". But some callers want to enforce_sysfs and others don't, so you
>> probably have to at least pass that flag. Then you have DAX which explicitly
> 
> Yes, the flags would still be passed. It's kind of the "context".
> 
>> ignores enforce_sysfs, but only in a page fault. And shmem, which ignores
>> enforce_sysfs, but only outside of a page fault. So it quickly becomes pretty
>> complex. It is basically thp_vma_allowable_orders() as currently defined.
> 
> Yeah, but moving the "can we actually fit a THP in there" check out of the picture.
> 
>>
>> If this could be a simple function then it could be inline and as you say, we
>> can do the masking in the caller and exit early for the order-0 case. But it is
>> very complex (at least if you want to retain the equivalent logic to what
>> thp_vma_allowable_orders() has) so I'm not sure how to do the order-0 early exit
>> without passing in the orders bitfield. And we are unlikely to exit early
>> because PMD-sized THP is likely enabled and because we didn't pass in a orders
>> bitfield, that wasn't filtered out.
>>
>> In short, I can't see a solution that's better than the one I have. But if you
>> have something in mind, if you can spell it out, then I'll have a go at tidying
>> it up and integrating it into the series. Otherwise I really would prefer to
>> leave it for a separate series.
> 
> I'm playing with some cleanups, but they can all be built on top if they
> materialize.

OK, I'm going to post a v9 then. And cross my fingers and hope that's the final
version.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-07 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-04 10:20 [PATCH v8 00/10] Multi-size THP for anonymous memory Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 01/10] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary anon large folios Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 02/10] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  0:58   ` Barry Song
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 03/10] mm: thp: Introduce multi-size THP sysfs interface Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  4:21   ` Barry Song
2023-12-05  9:50     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  9:57       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 10:50         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 16:57   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 13:18     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 10:56       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 11:13       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 11:22         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 11:25           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 11:44             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 04/10] mm: thp: Support allocation of anonymous multi-size THP Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  1:15   ` Barry Song
2023-12-05  1:24     ` Barry Song
2023-12-05 10:48       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 11:16         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 20:16         ` Barry Song
2023-12-06 10:15           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-06 10:25             ` Barry Song
2023-12-05 16:32   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-05 16:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 14:19     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-06 15:44       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 10:37         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 10:40           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 11:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 12:08         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 13:28           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 14:45             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 15:01               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-07 15:12                 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 05/10] selftests/mm/kugepaged: Restore thp settings at exit Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 17:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 06/10] selftests/mm: Factor out thp settings management Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 17:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 07/10] selftests/mm: Support multi-size THP interface in thp_settings Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 08/10] selftests/mm/khugepaged: Enlighten for multi-size THP Ryan Roberts
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 09/10] selftests/mm/cow: Generalize do_run_with_thp() helper Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  9:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 10:20 ` [PATCH v8 10/10] selftests/mm/cow: Add tests for anonymous multi-size THP Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 16:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-04 19:30 ` [PATCH v8 00/10] Multi-size THP for anonymous memory Andrew Morton
2023-12-05  9:34   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  3:28 ` Barry Song
2023-12-05 11:05   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05  3:37 ` John Hubbard
2023-12-05 11:13   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-05 18:58     ` John Hubbard
2023-12-05 14:19 ` Kefeng Wang
2023-12-06 10:08   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-07 15:50     ` Kefeng Wang
2023-12-05 17:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 10:13   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-12-06 10:22     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-06 14:22       ` Ryan Roberts

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