From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m33so995303wag for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <787b0d920706072351s6917ad77oe0bf381a5d5817d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 02:51:56 -0400 From: "Albert Cahalan" Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] /proc/pid/maps doesn't match "ipcs -m" shmid In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <787b0d920706062027s5a8fd35q752f8da5d446afc@mail.gmail.com> <20070606204432.b670a7b1.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <787b0d920706062153u7ad64179p1c4f3f663c3882f@mail.gmail.com> <20070607162004.GA27802@vino.hallyn.com> <787b0d920706072141s5a34ecb3n97007ad857ba4dc9@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Return-Path: To: "Eric W. Biederman" Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, pbadari@us.ibm.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org List-ID: On 6/8/07, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > "Albert Cahalan" writes: > > On 6/7/07, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > >> So it looks to me like we need to do three things: > >> - Fix the inode number > >> - Fix the name on the hugetlbfs dentry to hold the key > >> - Add a big fat comment that user space programs depend on this > >> behavior of both the dentry name and the inode number. > > > > Assuming that this proposed fix goes in: > > > > Since the inode number is the shmid, and this is a number > > that the kernel randomly chooses AFAIK, there should be > > no need to have different shm segments sharing the same > > inode number. > > Where we run into inode number confusion is that all of > these shm segments are actually files on a tmpfs filesystem > somewhere, and by making the inode number the shmid we loose > the tmpfs inode number. So it is possible we get tmpfs inode > number conflicts. However the inode number is not used for > anything, and the files are not visible in any other way except > as shm segments so it doesn't matter. Eh, the kernel choses both shmid and tmpfs inode number. You could set a high bit in one or the other. > There is another case with ipc namespaces where we ultimately need > to support duplicate shmids on the same machine (so migration > is a possibility). However by and large the user space > processes with duplicate ids should be invisible to each other. On the bright side, this only screws up people who get the crazy idea that processes can be migrated. > > The situation with the key is a bit more disturbing, though > > we already hit that anyway when IPC_PRIVATE is used. > > (why anybody would NOT use IPC_PRIVATE is a mystery) > > So having the key in the name doesn't make things worse. > > Having "SYSV" in the name appears mandatory. Otherwise you > don't even know it is a shm file. Although I may be confused. It's mandatory for a different reason: to satisfy parsers. It is nearly useless for identifying shm files. Look what I can do: touch /SYSV00000000 touch '/SYSV00000000 (deleted)' (so pmap creates a shm, looks for the address in /proc/self/maps, determines the device major/minor in use, and then uses that) > Hmm. Thinking about this I have just realized that we may want > to approach this a little differently. Currently I am reusing > the dentry and inode structure that hugetlbfs and tmpfs return > me, and simply have a distinct struct file for each shm mapping. > > There is a little more cost but it may actually make sense to have > a dentry and inode that is specific to shm.c so we can do whatever > we need to without adding requirements to the normal tmpfs or hugtlb > code. Piggybacking on tmpfs has always seemed a bit dirty to me. -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org