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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
Cc: ziy@nvidia.com, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	dev.jain@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org, ioworker0@gmail.com,
	kirill@shutemov.name, hughd@google.com, mpenttil@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-new v2 2/2] mm/khugepaged: abort collapse scan on guard PTEs
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 09:57:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7840f68e-7580-42cb-a7c8-1ba64fd6df69@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eabd866a-aed3-4e28-a139-13b7c1d4e715@linux.dev>

On 19.09.25 04:41, Lance Yang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2025/9/19 02:47, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 18.09.25 07:04, Lance Yang wrote:
>>> From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
>>>
>>> Guard PTE markers are installed via MADV_GUARD_INSTALL to create
>>> lightweight guard regions.
>>>
>>> Currently, any collapse path (khugepaged or MADV_COLLAPSE) will fail when
>>> encountering such a range.
>>>
>>> MADV_COLLAPSE fails deep inside the collapse logic when trying to swap-in
>>> the special marker in __collapse_huge_page_swapin().
>>>
>>> hpage_collapse_scan_pmd()
>>>    `- collapse_huge_page()
>>>        `- __collapse_huge_page_swapin() -> fails!
>>>
>>> khugepaged's behavior is slightly different due to its max_ptes_swap
>>> limit
>>> (default 64). It won't fail as deep, but it will still needlessly scan up
>>> to 64 swap entries before bailing out.
>>>
>>> IMHO, we can and should detect this much earlier.
>>>
>>> This patch adds a check directly inside the PTE scan loop. If a guard
>>> marker is found, the scan is aborted immediately with
>>> SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT,
>>> avoiding wasted work.
>>>
>>> Suggested-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
>>> ---
>>>    mm/khugepaged.c | 10 ++++++++++
>>>    1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>>> index 9ed1af2b5c38..70ebfc7c1f3e 100644
>>> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>>> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>>> @@ -1306,6 +1306,16 @@ static int hpage_collapse_scan_pmd(struct
>>> mm_struct *mm,
>>>                        result = SCAN_PTE_UFFD_WP;
>>>                        goto out_unmap;
>>>                    }
>>> +                /*
>>> +                 * Guard PTE markers are installed by
>>> +                 * MADV_GUARD_INSTALL. Any collapse path must
>>> +                 * not touch them, so abort the scan immediately
>>> +                 * if one is found.
>>> +                 */
>>> +                if (is_guard_pte_marker(pteval)) {
>>> +                    result = SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT;
>>> +                    goto out_unmap;
>>> +                }
>>
>> Thinking about it, this is interesting.
>>
>> Essentially we track any non-swap swap entries towards
>> khugepaged_max_ptes_swap, which is rather weird.
>>
>> I think we might also run into migration entries here and hwpoison entries?
>>
>> So what about just generalizing this:
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> index af5f5c80fe4ed..28f1f4bf0e0a8 100644
>> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> @@ -1293,7 +1293,24 @@ static int hpage_collapse_scan_pmd(struct
>> mm_struct *mm,
>>           for (_address = address, _pte = pte; _pte < pte + HPAGE_PMD_NR;
>>                _pte++, _address += PAGE_SIZE) {
>>                   pte_t pteval = ptep_get(_pte);
>> -               if (is_swap_pte(pteval)) {
>> +
>> +               if (pte_none(pteval) || is_zero_pfn(pte_pfn(pteval))) {
>> +                       ++none_or_zero;
>> +                       if (!userfaultfd_armed(vma) &&
>> +                           (!cc->is_khugepaged ||
>> +                            none_or_zero <= khugepaged_max_ptes_none)) {
>> +                               continue;
>> +                       } else {
>> +                               result = SCAN_EXCEED_NONE_PTE;
>> +                               count_vm_event(THP_SCAN_EXCEED_NONE_PTE);
>> +                               goto out_unmap;
>> +                       }
>> +               } else if (!pte_present(pteval)) {
>> +                       if (non_swap_entry(pte_to_swp_entry(pteval))) {
>> +                               result = SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT;
>> +                               goto out_unmap;
>> +                       }
>> +
>>                           ++unmapped;
>>                           if (!cc->is_khugepaged ||
>>                               unmapped <= khugepaged_max_ptes_swap) {
>> @@ -1313,18 +1330,7 @@ static int hpage_collapse_scan_pmd(struct
>> mm_struct *mm,
>>                                   goto out_unmap;
>>                           }
>>                   }
>> -               if (pte_none(pteval) || is_zero_pfn(pte_pfn(pteval))) {
>> -                       ++none_or_zero;
>> -                       if (!userfaultfd_armed(vma) &&
>> -                           (!cc->is_khugepaged ||
>> -                            none_or_zero <= khugepaged_max_ptes_none)) {
>> -                               continue;
>> -                       } else {
>> -                               result = SCAN_EXCEED_NONE_PTE;
>> -                               count_vm_event(THP_SCAN_EXCEED_NONE_PTE);
>> -                               goto out_unmap;
>> -                       }
>> -               }
>> +
>>                   if (pte_uffd_wp(pteval)) {
>>                           /*
>>                            * Don't collapse the page if any of the small
>>
>>
>> With that, the function flow looks more similar to
>> __collapse_huge_page_isolate(),
>> except that we handle swap entries in there now.
> 
> Ah, indeed. I like this crazy idea ;p
> 
>>
>>
>> And with that in place, couldn't we factor out a huge chunk of both
>> scanning
>> functions into some helper (passing whether swap entries are allowed or
>> not?).
> 
> Yes. Factoring out the common scanning logic into a new helper is a
> good suggestion. It would clean things up ;)
> 
>>
>> Yes, I know, refactoring khugepaged, crazy idea.
> 
> I'll look into that. But let's do this separately :)

Right, but let's just skip any non-swap entries early in this patch 
instead of special-casing only guard ptes.

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-19  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-18  5:04 [PATCH mm-new v2 0/2] mm/khugepaged: optimize collapse candidate detection Lance Yang
2025-09-18  5:04 ` [PATCH mm-new v2 1/2] mm: make is_guard_pte_marker() available for hugepage collapse Lance Yang
2025-09-18 19:07   ` Zi Yan
2025-09-23  2:29   ` Wei Yang
2025-09-18  5:04 ` [PATCH mm-new v2 2/2] mm/khugepaged: abort collapse scan on guard PTEs Lance Yang
2025-09-18  7:37   ` Dev Jain
2025-09-18  8:11     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-18 10:06       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-18 11:10         ` Dev Jain
2025-09-18 10:16   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-18 11:11   ` Dev Jain
2025-09-18 18:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-19  2:41     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-19  7:57       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-19  8:26         ` Lance Yang
2025-09-19  4:11     ` Dev Jain
2025-09-18 19:12   ` Zi Yan
2025-09-19  2:44     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-19  3:18       ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-19  3:34         ` Lance Yang

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