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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 21:38:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <78159ed0-a233-9afb-712f-2df1a4858b22@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230703135330.1865927-1-ryan.roberts@arm.com>

On 03.07.23 15:53, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> This is v2 of a series to implement variable order, large folios for anonymous
> memory. The objective of this is to improve performance by allocating larger
> chunks of memory during anonymous page faults. See [1] for background.
> 
> I've significantly reworked and simplified the patch set based on comments from
> Yu Zhao (thanks for all your feedback!). I've also renamed the feature to
> VARIABLE_THP, on Yu's advice.
> 
> The last patch is for arm64 to explicitly override the default
> arch_wants_pte_order() and is intended as an example. If this series is accepted
> I suggest taking the first 4 patches through the mm tree and the arm64 change
> could be handled through the arm64 tree separately. Neither has any build
> dependency on the other.
> 
> The one area where I haven't followed Yu's advice is in the determination of the
> size of folio to use. It was suggested that I have a single preferred large
> order, and if it doesn't fit in the VMA (due to exceeding VMA bounds, or there
> being existing overlapping populated PTEs, etc) then fallback immediately to
> order-0. It turned out that this approach caused a performance regression in the
> Speedometer benchmark. With my v1 patch, there were significant quantities of
> memory which could not be placed in the 64K bucket and were instead being
> allocated for the 32K and 16K buckets. With the proposed simplification, that
> memory ended up using the 4K bucket, so page faults increased by 2.75x compared
> to the v1 patch (although due to the 64K bucket, this number is still a bit
> lower than the baseline). So instead, I continue to calculate a folio order that
> is somewhere between the preferred order and 0. (See below for more details).
> 
> The patches are based on top of v6.4 plus Matthew Wilcox's set_ptes() series
> [2], which is a hard dependency. I have a branch at [3].
> 
> 
> Changes since v1 [1]
> --------------------
> 
>    - removed changes to arch-dependent vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio()
>    - replaced with arch-independent alloc_anon_folio()
>        - follows THP allocation approach
>    - no longer retry with intermediate orders if allocation fails
>        - fallback directly to order-0
>    - remove folio_add_new_anon_rmap_range() patch
>        - instead add its new functionality to folio_add_new_anon_rmap()
>    - remove batch-zap pte mappings optimization patch
>        - remove enabler folio_remove_rmap_range() patch too
>        - These offer real perf improvement so will submit separately
>    - simplify Kconfig
>        - single FLEXIBLE_THP option, which is independent of arch
>        - depends on TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
>        - when enabled default to max anon folio size of 64K unless arch
>          explicitly overrides
>    - simplify changes to do_anonymous_page():
>        - no more retry loop
> 
> 
> Performance
> -----------
> 
> Below results show 3 benchmarks; kernel compilation with 8 jobs, kernel
> compilation with 80 jobs, and speedometer 2.0 (a javascript benchmark running in
> Chromium). All cases are running on Ampere Altra with 1 NUMA node enabled,
> Ubuntu 22.04 and XFS filesystem. Each benchmark is repeated 15 times over 5
> reboots and averaged.
> 
> 'anonfolio-lkml-v1' is the v1 patchset at [1]. 'anonfolio-lkml-v2' is this v2
> patchset. 'anonfolio-lkml-v2-simple-order' is anonfolio-lkml-v2 but with the
> order selection simplification that Yu Zhao suggested - I'm trying to justify
> here why I did not follow the advice.
> 
> 
> Kernel compilation with 8 jobs:
> 
> | kernel                         |   real-time |   kern-time |   user-time |
> |:-------------------------------|------------:|------------:|------------:|
> | baseline-4k                    |        0.0% |        0.0% |        0.0% |
> | anonfolio-lkml-v1              |       -5.3% |      -42.9% |       -0.6% |
> | anonfolio-lkml-v2-simple-order |       -4.4% |      -36.5% |       -0.4% |
> | anonfolio-lkml-v2              |       -4.8% |      -38.6% |       -0.6% |
> 
> We can see that the simple-order approach is responsible for a regression of
> 0.4%.
> 
> 
> Kernel compilation with 80 jobs:
> 
> | kernel                         |   real-time |   kern-time |   user-time |
> |:-------------------------------|------------:|------------:|------------:|
> | baseline-4k                    |        0.0% |        0.0% |        0.0% |
> | anonfolio-lkml-v1              |       -4.6% |      -45.7% |        1.4% |
> | anonfolio-lkml-v2-simple-order |       -4.7% |      -40.2% |       -0.1% |
> | anonfolio-lkml-v2              |       -5.0% |      -42.6% |       -0.3% |
> 
> simple-order costs 0.3 % here. v2 is actually performing higher than v1 due to
> fixing the v1 regression on user-time.
> 
> 
> Speedometer 2.0:
> 
> | kernel                         |   runs_per_min |
> |:-------------------------------|---------------:|
> | baseline-4k                    |           0.0% |
> | anonfolio-lkml-v1              |           0.7% |
> | anonfolio-lkml-v2-simple-order |          -0.9% |
> | anonfolio-lkml-v2              |           0.5% |
> 
> simple-order regresses performance by 0.9% vs the baseline, for a total negative
> swing of 1.6% vs v1. This is fixed by keeping the more complex order selection
> mechanism from v1.
> 
> 
> The remaining (kernel time) performance gap between v1 and v2 for the above
> benchmarks is due to the removal of the "batch zap" patch in v2. Adding that
> back in gives us the performance back. I intend to submit that as a separate
> series once this series is accepted.
> 
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230626171430.3167004-1-ryan.roberts@arm.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230315051444.3229621-1-willy@infradead.org/
> [3] https://gitlab.arm.com/linux-arm/linux-rr/-/tree/features/granule_perf/anonfolio-lkml_v2
> 
> Thanks,
> Ryan

Hi Ryan,

is page migration already working as expected (what about page 
compaction?), and do we handle migration -ENOMEM when allocating a 
target page: do we split an fallback to 4k page migration?

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-05 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-03 13:53 Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 19:05   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  2:13     ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 11:19       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04  2:14   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary large anon folios Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07  8:21   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-07  9:42     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  5:37       ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  8:29         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  9:01           ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  9:39             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11  1:56               ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: Default implementation of arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 19:50   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 13:20     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05  2:07       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  9:11         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 17:24           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 18:01             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-06 19:33         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 10:00           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04  2:22   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  3:02     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  3:59       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  5:22         ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  5:42           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 12:36         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 13:23           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05  1:40             ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  1:23           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  2:18             ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: FLEXIBLE_THP for improved performance Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 15:51   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-03 16:01   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-04  1:35   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 14:08     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:47       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  3:45   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 14:20     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:35       ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-04 23:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-05  9:54         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 12:08           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07  8:01   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-07  9:52     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 11:29       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 13:57         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 14:07           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 15:13             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 16:06               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 16:22                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 19:06                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-10  8:41                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  3:03               ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  8:55                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  9:18                   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  9:25                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11  0:48                       ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  2:49           ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: mm: Override arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 20:02   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  2:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  6:22   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  7:11     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 15:36       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:52         ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-05  0:21           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 10:16             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 19:00               ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 19:38 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-07-06  8:02   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 11:40     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 13:12       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 13:24         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-10 10:07           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10 16:57             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-10 16:53           ` Zi Yan
2023-07-19 15:49             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-19 16:05               ` Zi Yan
2023-07-19 18:37                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11 21:11         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-07-11 21:59           ` Matthew Wilcox

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