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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lgoncalv@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/page_alloc: Use write_seqlock_irqsave() instead write_seqlock() + local_irq_save().
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 19:58:33 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7758a46f-69a9-c585-53e0-9b1b220b75c0@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZJP1tLknhvMTHCrE@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 2023/06/22 16:18, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> It is explained as the first deadlock scenario in commit 1007843a9190
>>> ("mm/page_alloc: fix potential deadlock on zonelist_update_seq seqlock").
>>> We have to disable IRQ before making zonelist_update_seq.seqcount odd.
>>>
>>
>> Since we must replace local_irq_save() + write_seqlock() with write_seqlock_irqsave() for
>> CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT=y case but we must not replace local_irq_save() + write_seqlock() with
>> write_seqlock_irqsave() for CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT=n case, the proper fix is something like below?
> 
> Now, I am confused. Why write_seqlock_irqsave is not allowed for !RT?
> Let me quote the changelog and he scenario 1:
>         write_seqlock(&zonelist_update_seq); // makes zonelist_update_seq.seqcount odd
>         // e.g. timer interrupt handler runs at this moment
>           some_timer_func() {
>             kmalloc(GFP_ATOMIC) {
>               __alloc_pages_slowpath() {
>                 read_seqbegin(&zonelist_update_seq) {
>                   // spins forever because zonelist_update_seq.seqcount is odd
>                 }
>               }
>             }
>           }
>         // e.g. timer interrupt handler finishes
>         write_sequnlock(&zonelist_update_seq); // makes zonelist_update_seq.seqcount even
> 
> This is clearly impossible with write_seqlock_irqsave as interrupts are
> disabled before the lock is taken.

Well, it seems that "I don't want to replace" rather than "we must not replace".
I reread the thread but I couldn't find why nobody suggested write_seqlock_irqsave().
The reason I proposed the

  local_irq_save() => printk_deferred_enter() => write_seqlock()

ordering implies a precaution in case write_seqlock() involves printk() (e.g. lockdep,
KCSAN, soft-lockup warning), in addition to "local_irq_save() before printk_deferred_enter()"
requirement. Maybe people in that thread were happy with preserving this precaution...

You commented

  There shouldn't be any other locks (apart from hotplug) taken in that path IIRC.

at https://lkml.kernel.org/ZCrYQj+2/uMtqNBm@dhcp22.suse.cz .

If __build_all_zonelists() is already serialized by hotplug lock, we don't
need to call spin_lock(&zonelist_update_seq.lock) and we will be able to
replace write_seqlock(&zonelist_update_seq) with
write_seqcount_begin(&zonelist_update_seq.seqcount) like
cpuset_change_task_nodemask() does?



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-22 10:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-21 10:40 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-21 10:59 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-21 11:16   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-21 11:49     ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-21 13:11       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-21 13:22         ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-21 13:25           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-21 11:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-21 11:33 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-21 12:40   ` Petr Mladek
2023-06-21 13:08     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-21 13:06   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-21 13:32     ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-21 14:34       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-21 14:50         ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-21 23:24           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-22  7:18             ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-22 10:58               ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2023-06-22 12:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-22 13:36             ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-22 14:11               ` Petr Mladek
2023-06-22 14:28                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-23  9:35                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-22 15:04                 ` Petr Mladek
2023-06-22 15:43                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-23  9:45                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-23  9:51                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-23 10:11                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-23 10:36                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-23 12:44                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-23 12:57                               ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-23 10:53                           ` Petr Mladek
2023-06-23 11:16                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-23 13:31                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-23 15:38                               ` Petr Mladek
2023-06-23 16:04                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-23  9:31               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-23  7:27           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-21 15:38         ` Petr Mladek
2023-06-23  8:12           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-23  9:21             ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-23  9:58               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-23 10:43                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-23 10:45                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-23 10:50                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-23 11:32                   ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-23 10:40             ` Petr Mladek
2023-06-23 13:24               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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