From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>
To: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>,
Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
Magnus Damm <magnus@valinux.co.jp>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/07][RFC] i386: NUMA emulation
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 07:45:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <77150000.1128350759@[10.10.2.4]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0510030031170.11095@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>
--David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com> wrote (on Monday, October 03, 2005 00:34:40 -0700):
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Magnus Damm wrote:
>
>> On 10/1/05, Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 16:33 +0900, Magnus Damm wrote:
>>>> These patches implement NUMA memory node emulation for regular i386 PC:s.
>>>>
>>>> NUMA emulation could be used to provide coarse-grained memory resource control
>>>> using CPUSETS. Another use is as a test environment for NUMA memory code or
>>>> CPUSETS using an i386 emulator such as QEMU.
>>>
>>> This patch set basically allows the "NUMA depends on SMP" dependency to
>>> be removed. I'm not sure this is the right approach. There will likely
>>> never be a real-world NUMA system without SMP. So, this set would seem
>>> to include some increased (#ifdef) complexity for supporting SMP && !
>>> NUMA, which will likely never happen in the real world.
>>
>> Yes, this patch set removes "NUMA depends on SMP". It also adds some
>> simple NUMA emulation code too, but I am sure you are aware of that!
>> =)
>>
>> I agree that it is very unlikely to find a single-processor NUMA
>> system in the real world. So yes, "[PATCH 02/07] i386: numa on
>> non-smp" adds _some_ extra complexity. But because SMP is set when
>> supporting more than one cpu, and NUMA is set when supporting more
>> than one memory node, I see no reason why they should be dependent on
>> each other. Except that they depend on each other today and breaking
>> them loose will increase complexity a bit.
>
> hmm, observation from the peanut gallery, would it make sene to look at
> useing the NUMA code on single proc machines that use PAE to access
> more then 4G or ram on a 32 bit system?
2 problems:
1) there aren't any ;-)
2) The memory is not physically differently separated from the CPUs, so
it's not NUMA.
M.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-03 14:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-30 7:33 Magnus Damm
2005-09-30 7:33 ` [PATCH 01/07] i386: srat non acpi Magnus Damm, Magnus Damm
2005-09-30 7:33 ` [PATCH 02/07] i386: numa on non-smp Magnus Damm, Magnus Damm
2005-09-30 7:33 ` [PATCH 03/07] cpuset: smp or numa Magnus Damm, Magnus Damm
2005-09-30 7:33 ` [PATCH 04/07] i386: numa warning fix Magnus Damm, Isaku Yamahata
2005-09-30 7:33 ` [PATCH 05/07] i386: sparsemem on pc Magnus Damm, Magnus Damm
2005-09-30 15:25 ` Dave Hansen
2005-10-01 0:32 ` Magnus Damm
2005-09-30 7:33 ` [PATCH 06/07] i386: discontigmem " Magnus Damm, Magnus Damm
2005-09-30 7:33 ` [PATCH 07/07] i386: numa emulation " Magnus Damm, Isaku Yamahata
2005-09-30 18:55 ` Dave Hansen
2005-10-03 9:59 ` Magnus Damm
2005-10-03 16:16 ` Dave Hansen
2005-10-04 5:06 ` Magnus Damm
2005-10-04 7:52 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-10-04 9:49 ` Magnus Damm
2005-09-30 15:23 ` [PATCH 00/07][RFC] i386: NUMA emulation Dave Hansen
2005-10-03 2:08 ` Magnus Damm
2005-10-03 7:34 ` David Lang
2005-10-03 10:02 ` Magnus Damm
2005-10-03 13:33 ` David Lang
2005-10-03 14:59 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-03 15:03 ` David Lang
2005-10-03 15:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-03 15:13 ` David Lang
2005-10-03 15:25 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-03 15:32 ` David Lang
2005-10-03 15:54 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-03 16:44 ` David Lang
2005-10-03 14:45 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2005-10-03 14:49 ` David Lang
2005-10-03 3:21 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-03 5:05 ` Magnus Damm
2005-10-03 5:26 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-10-03 5:33 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-03 5:59 ` Magnus Damm
2005-10-03 7:26 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-03 5:34 ` Paul Jackson
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