From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
peterz@infradead.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
kernel-team@meta.com,
"open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
jannh@google.com, mhklinux@outlook.com,
andrew.cooper3@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 09:31:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <767F960A-4252-4B22-900B-ABBD7604DF56@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe9f399ae63b9f9ef21e1cdfa780793ed1e26e56.camel@surriel.com>
> On 21 Jan 2025, at 0:44, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> wrote:
>
>
> If the TLB flush is about a page table change that
> happened after the transition to a global ASID,
> flush_tlb_mm_range() should see that global ASID,
> and flush accordingly.
>
> What am I missing?
I think reasoning needs to be done using memory ordering
arguments using the kernel memory model (which builds on top
of x86 memory model in our case) and when necessary
“happens-before” relations. The fact one CPU sees a write
does not imply another CPU will see the write by itself.
So if there is some memory barriers that would prevent this
scenario, it would be good to mark how they synchronize.
Otherwise, I think the very least “late” TLB-shootdowns should
be respected even if the ASID is already “global”.
I do recommend that you would also check the opposite case
where a CPU that transitioned to global ASID does broadcast
and there is a strangler CPU that has not yet switched to
the global one. While in that case the TLB flush would
eventually take place, there might be a window of time that
it is not (and the page is already freed).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-21 7:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-20 2:40 [PATCH v6 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 01/12] x86/mm: make MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE unconditional Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 19:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 02/12] x86/mm: remove pv_ops.mmu.tlb_remove_table call Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 19:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-21 1:03 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-21 7:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-21 8:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 15:48 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 03/12] x86/mm: consolidate full flush threshold decision Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 04/12] x86/mm: get INVLPGB count max from CPUID Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] x86/mm: add INVLPGB support code Rik van Riel
2025-01-21 9:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-22 16:58 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] x86/mm: use INVLPGB for kernel TLB flushes Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 07/12] x86/tlb: use INVLPGB in flush_tlb_all Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 08/12] x86/mm: use broadcast TLB flushing for page reclaim TLB flushing Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 14:02 ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-20 16:09 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 20:04 ` Nadav Amit
2025-01-20 22:44 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-21 7:31 ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2025-01-21 9:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-21 10:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 1:40 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-21 18:48 ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-22 8:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 1:13 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-23 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 12:42 ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 10/12] x86,tlb: do targeted broadcast flushing from tlbbatch code Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] x86/mm: enable AMD translation cache extensions Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 2:40 ` [PATCH v6 12/12] x86/mm: only invalidate final translations with INVLPGB Rik van Riel
2025-01-20 5:58 ` [PATCH v6 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Michael Kelley
2025-01-24 11:41 ` Manali Shukla
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