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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>, Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Cc: Luke Yang <luyang@redhat.com>,
	dev.jain@arm.com, jhladky@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, willy@infradead.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] mm/mprotect: 2x+ slowdown for >=400KiB regions since PTE batching (cac1db8c3aad)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 18:26:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <764792ea-6029-41d8-b079-5297ca62505a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpHJyHH4=kcQcc_RUPhmLBN8HckoDW0DHiUe+FdQ+tr2NA@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/13/26 18:16, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 4:24 PM Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 04:47:29PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>
>>> Micro-benchmark results are nice. But what is the real word impact? IOW, why
>>> should we care?
>>
>> Well, mprotect is widely used in thread spawning, code JITting,
>> and even process startup. And we don't want to pay for a feature we can't
>> even use (on x86).
> 
> I agree. When I straced Android's zygote a while ago, mprotect() came
> up #30 in the list of most frequently used syscalls and one of the
> most used mm-related syscalls due to its use during process creation.
> However, I don't know how often it's used on VMAs of size >=400KiB.

See my point? :) If this is apparently so widespread then finding a real 
reproducer is likely not a problem. Otherwise it's just speculation.

It would also be interesting to know whether the reproducer ran with any 
sort of mTHP enabled or not.

> 
>>
>> In any case, I think I see the problem. Namely, that we now need to call
>> vm_normal_folio() for every single PTE (this seems similar to the mremap
>> problem caught in 0b5be138ce00f421bd7cc5a226061bd62c4ab850). I'll try to
>> draft up a patch over the weekend if I can.

I think we excessively discussed that during review and fixups of the 
commit in question. You might want to dig through that because I could 
have sworn we might already have discussed how to optimize this.

When going from none -> writable we always did a vm_normal_folio() with 
anonymous folios. For the other direction not.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-13 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-13 15:08 Luke Yang
2026-02-13 15:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-13 16:24   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-13 17:16     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-02-13 17:26       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-02-16 10:12         ` Dev Jain
2026-02-16 14:56           ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-17 17:43           ` Luke Yang
2026-02-17 18:08             ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-18  5:01               ` Dev Jain
2026-02-18 10:06                 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-18 10:38                   ` Dev Jain
2026-02-18 10:46                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-18 11:58                       ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-18 12:24                         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-19 12:15                           ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-19 13:02                             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-19 15:00                               ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-19 15:29                                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-20  4:12                                 ` Dev Jain
2026-02-18 11:52                     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-18  4:50             ` Dev Jain
2026-02-18 13:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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