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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-x86_64@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	linuxram@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pkeys: Introduce PKEY_ALLOC_SIGNALINHERIT and change signal semantics
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 16:37:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74eec76a-3587-7ff6-fa0b-d8aa78ab28a1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrW_Dt-HoG4keFJd8DSD=tvyR+bBCFrBDYdym4GQbfng4A@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/02/2018 11:23 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> The kernel could do*something*, probably along the membarrier system
>> call.  I mean, I could implement a reasonable close approximation in
>> userspace, via the setxid mechanism in glibc (but I really don't want to).
> I beg to differ.
> 
> Thread A:
> old = RDPKRU();
> WRPKRU(old & ~3);
> ...
> WRPKRU(old);
> 
> Thread B:
> pkey_alloc().
> 
> If pkey_alloc() happens while thread A is in the ... part, you lose.  It
> makes no difference what the kernel does.  The problem is that the WRPKRU
> instruction itself is designed incorrectly.

Even that is solvable, as long as the architecture as exact traps: You 
can look at the program counter and patch up the registers accordingly 
if the code is in the critical section.  Of course, this would need 
centralizing PKRU updates in a vDSO or a single (glibc) library 
function.  Certainly not nice and even horrible enough not to do it, but 
I don't think it's actually impossible.

Didn't we discuss this before?

Thanks,
Florian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-03 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-02 13:26 Florian Weimer
2018-05-02 14:30 ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-02 15:12   ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-02 15:28     ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-02 21:08       ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-02 22:03         ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-07  9:47           ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-02 17:09     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-02 17:17       ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-02 20:41         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-02 21:06           ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-02 21:23             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-02 22:08               ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-02 22:22                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-02 22:32                   ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-02 23:32                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-02 23:58                       ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-03  1:14                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-03 14:42                           ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-03 14:42                           ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-03  2:10               ` Ram Pai
2018-05-03  4:05                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-07  9:48                   ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-08  2:49                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-08 12:40                       ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-09 14:41                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-14 12:01                           ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-14 15:32                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-14 15:34                               ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-16 17:01                                 ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-16 20:52                             ` Ram Pai
2018-05-16 20:54                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-16 20:35                         ` Ram Pai
2018-05-16 20:37                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-16 21:07                             ` Ram Pai
2018-05-17 10:09                               ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-17 10:11                           ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-03 14:37               ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2018-05-02 21:12     ` Ram Pai
2018-05-02 21:18       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-02 23:38         ` Ram Pai
2018-05-07  9:47           ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-07  9:43         ` Florian Weimer

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