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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: dave.hansen@intel.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 1/2] mm/tlb: skip redundant IPI when TLB flush already synchronized
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 00:10:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7472056a-3919-429a-845d-c2076496d537@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <da1e8a00-99fe-46d9-b425-c307ea933036@kernel.org>



On 2026/1/6 23:19, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
>>   static void tlb_table_flush(struct mmu_gather *tlb)
>> @@ -367,7 +378,7 @@ void tlb_remove_table(struct mmu_gather *tlb, void 
>> *table)
>>           *batch = (struct mmu_table_batch *)__get_free_page(GFP_NOWAIT);
>>           if (*batch == NULL) {
>>               tlb_table_invalidate(tlb);
>> -            tlb_remove_table_one(table);
>> +            tlb_remove_table_one(table, tlb);
>>               return;
>>           }
>>           (*batch)->nr = 0;
>> @@ -427,6 +438,7 @@ static void __tlb_gather_mmu(struct mmu_gather 
>> *tlb, struct mm_struct *mm,
>>       tlb->vma_pfn = 0;
>>       tlb->fully_unshared_tables = 0;
>> +    tlb->tlb_flush_sent_ipi = 0;
>>       __tlb_reset_range(tlb);
>>       inc_tlb_flush_pending(tlb->mm);
>>   }
> 
> But when would we have to reset tlb->tlb_flush_sent_ipi = 0 later? 
> That's where it gets tricky. Just imagine the MMU gather gets reused later.
> 
> Also,
> 
>      +    if (info->freed_tables && info->tlb)
>      +        info->tlb->tlb_flush_sent_ipi = true;
> 
> in native_flush_tlb_multi() misses the fact that we have different 
> flushing types for removed/unshared tables vs. other flush.
> 
> So this approach more here certainly gets more complicated and error prone.

Agreed. Tracking the flag through mmu_gather lifecycle does get
more complicated and error-prone ...

> 
> tlb_table_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast() was clearer in that regard: if 
> you flushed the TLB after removing /unsharing tables, the IPI for 
> handling page tables can be skipped. It's on the code flow to assure that.

v2 was definitely simpler.

> 
> What could work is tracking "tlb_table_flush_sent_ipi" really when we 
> are flushing the TLB for removed/unshared tables, and maybe resetting 
> it ... I don't know when from the top of my head.

Not sure what's the best way forward here :(

> 
> v2 was simpler IMHO.

The main concern Dave raised was that with PV hypercalls or when
INVLPGB is available, we can't tell from a static check whether IPIs
were actually sent.

Maybe that's acceptable, or we could find a simpler way to track that ...

Open to suggestions!


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-06 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-06 12:03 [PATCH RESEND v3 0/2] skip redundant TLB sync IPIs Lance Yang
2026-01-06 12:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 1/2] mm/tlb: skip redundant IPI when TLB flush already synchronized Lance Yang
2026-01-06 15:19   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-06 16:10     ` Lance Yang [this message]
2026-01-07  6:37       ` Lance Yang
2026-01-09 14:11         ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-09 14:13       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-09 15:30         ` Lance Yang
2026-01-09 15:40           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-06 16:24   ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-07  2:47     ` Lance Yang
2026-01-06 12:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 2/2] mm: introduce pmdp_collapse_flush_sync() to skip redundant IPI Lance Yang
2026-01-06 15:07   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-06 15:41     ` Lance Yang
2026-01-07  9:46   ` kernel test robot
2026-01-07 10:52   ` kernel test robot

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