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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] x86/tlb: add architecture-specific TLB IPI optimization support
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2026 14:56:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7454cd72-3816-4a05-89f1-ded8b99acb41@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aaCP95l-m8ISXF78@google.com>



On 2026/2/27 02:24, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2026, Lance Yang wrote:
>> On 2026/2/26 04:11, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 02, 2026, Lance Yang wrote:
>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c b/arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c
>>>> index 37dc8465e0f5..6a5e47ee4eb6 100644
>>>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c
>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c
>>>> @@ -856,6 +856,12 @@ static void __init kvm_guest_init(void)
>>>>    #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
>>>>    	if (pv_tlb_flush_supported()) {
>>>>    		pv_ops.mmu.flush_tlb_multi = kvm_flush_tlb_multi;
>>>> +		/*
>>>> +		 * KVM's flush implementation calls native_flush_tlb_multi(),
>>>> +		 * which sends real IPIs when INVLPGB is not available.
>>>
>>> Not on all (virtual) CPUs.  The entire point of KVM's PV TLB flush is to elide
>>> the IPIs.  If a vCPU was scheduled out by the host, the guest sets a flag and
>>> relies on the host to flush the TLB on behalf of the guest prior to the next
>>> VM-Enter.
>>
>> Ah, I see. Thanks for the correction!
>>
>> KVM only sends IPIs to running vCPUs; preempted ones are left out of the mask
>> and flushed on VM-Enter. So the old comment was wrong ...
>>
>> IIUC, we still set the flag to true because only running vCPUs can be in a
>> software/lockless walk, and they all get the IPI, so the flush is enough.
>>
>> Does that match what you had in mind?
> 
> No, because from the guest kernel's perspective, the vCPU is running.  The kernel
> can't make any assumptions about what code the vCPU was executing when the vCPU
> was preempted by the host scheduler, i.e. it's entirely possible the vCPU is in
> a software/lockless walk.

Thanks a lot for setting me straight!

So any PV that has its own things and doesn't call
native_flush_tlb_multi() directly cannot be trusted to provide the IPI
guarantees we need.

So we should only set the flag for the native path, which truly calls
native_flush_tlb_multi() directly.


Have a great weekend,
Lance


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-01  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-02  7:45 [PATCH v4 0/3] targeted TLB sync IPIs for lockless page table walkers Lance Yang
2026-02-02  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: use targeted IPIs for TLB sync with " Lance Yang
2026-02-02  9:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 12:14     ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 12:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 13:23         ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 13:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 14:28             ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 16:20       ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-02  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: switch callers to tlb_remove_table_sync_mm() Lance Yang
2026-02-02  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] x86/tlb: add architecture-specific TLB IPI optimization support Lance Yang
2026-02-25 20:11   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-26 11:37     ` Lance Yang
2026-02-26 18:24       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-01  6:56         ` Lance Yang [this message]
2026-02-02  9:54 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] targeted TLB sync IPIs for lockless page table walkers Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 11:00   ` [PATCH v4 0/3] targeted TLB sync IPIs for lockless page table Lance Yang
2026-02-02 12:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 12:58       ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 13:07         ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 13:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 14:37             ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 15:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 15:52                 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-05 13:25                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 15:01                     ` Lance Yang
2026-02-05 15:05                       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 15:28                         ` Lance Yang
2026-02-05 15:09                       ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-05 15:31                         ` Lance Yang
2026-02-05 15:41                           ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-05 16:30                             ` Lance Yang
2026-02-05 16:46                               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 16:48                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-02-05 17:06                                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 18:36                                   ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-05 22:49                                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 21:30                                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 17:00                               ` Dave Hansen

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