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core code directly calls arch helpers: > arch_{enter,leave}_lazy_mmu_mode(). > > We are about to introduce support for nested lazy MMU sections. > As things stand we'd have to duplicate that logic in every arch > implementing lazy_mmu - adding to a fair amount of logic > already duplicated across lazy_mmu implementations. > > This patch therefore introduces a new generic layer that calls the > existing arch_* helpers. Two pair of calls are introduced: > > * lazy_mmu_mode_enable() ... lazy_mmu_mode_disable() > This is the standard case where the mode is enabled for a given > block of code by surrounding it with enable() and disable() > calls. > > * lazy_mmu_mode_pause() ... lazy_mmu_mode_resume() > This is for situations where the mode is temporarily disabled > by first calling pause() and then resume() (e.g. to prevent any > batching from occurring in a critical section). > > The documentation in will be updated in a > subsequent patch. > > No functional change should be introduced at this stage. > The implementation of enable()/resume() and disable()/pause() is > currently identical, but nesting support will change that. > > Most of the call sites have been updated using the following > Coccinelle script: > > @@ > @@ > { > ... > - arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode(); > + lazy_mmu_mode_enable(); > ... > - arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode(); > + lazy_mmu_mode_disable(); > ... > } > > @@ > @@ > { > ... > - arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode(); > + lazy_mmu_mode_pause(); > ... > - arch_enter_lazy_mmu_mode(); > + lazy_mmu_mode_resume(); > ... > } > > A couple of cases are noteworthy: > > * madvise_*_pte_range() call arch_leave() in multiple paths, some > followed by an immediate exit/rescheduling and some followed by a > conditional exit. These functions assume that they are called > with lazy MMU disabled and we cannot simply use pause()/resume() > to address that. This patch leaves the situation unchanged by > calling enable()/disable() in all cases. I'm confused, the function simply does (a) enables lazy mmu (b) does something on the page table (c) disables lazy mmu (d) does something expensive (split folio -> take sleepable locks, flushes tlb) (e) go to (a) Why would we use enable/disable instead? > > * x86/Xen is currently the only case where explicit handling is > required for lazy MMU when context-switching. This is purely an > implementation detail and using the generic lazy_mmu_mode_* > functions would cause trouble when nesting support is introduced, > because the generic functions must be called from the current task. > For that reason we still use arch_leave() and arch_enter() there. How does this interact with patch #11? > > Note: x86 calls arch_flush_lazy_mmu_mode() unconditionally in a few > places, but only defines it if PARAVIRT_XXL is selected, and we are > removing the fallback in . Add a new fallback > definition to to keep things building. I can see a call in __kernel_map_pages() and arch_kmap_local_post_map()/arch_kmap_local_post_unmap(). I guess that is ... harmless/irrelevant in the context of this series? [...] -- Cheers David / dhildenb