From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>
Cc: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
Nanyong Sun <sunnanyong@huawei.com>,
aarcange@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
baohua@kernel.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
jhubbard@nvidia.com, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, mike.kravetz@oracle.com,
rcampbell@nvidia.com, william.kucharski@oracle.com,
yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com, ziy@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [Question] performance regression after VM migration due to anon THP split in CoW
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 15:55:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <734ab5c8-5791-45d4-b3e5-6ee4d7cd61f4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4881e19d-d556-4b54-a788-bf1e111ff24a@huawei.com>
On 04.07.24 15:31, Jinjiang Tu wrote:
>
> 在 2024/6/29 17:45, David Hildenbrand 写道:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Likely the mailing lists won‘t like my mail from this Google Mail
>> client ;)
>>
>> Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com> schrieb am Sa. 29. Juni 2024 um 11:18:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We noticed a performance regression in benchmark memtester[1] after
>> upgrading the kernel. THP is enabled by default
>> (/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
>> is set to "always"). The issue arises when we migrate a virtual
>> machine
>> that has 125G total memory and 124G free memory to another host.
>> And then,
>> we run the command `memtester 120G` in the VM. The benchmark takes
>> about
>> 20 seconds to consume 120G memory in v4.18, but takes about 160
>> seconds in
>> v5.10. This issue exists in mainline kernel too.
>>
>>
>> Simple: use preallocation in QEMU. „prealloc=on“ for host memory
>> backends, for example.
>>
>>
>> We find commit 3917c80280c9 ("thp: change CoW semantics for anon-THP")
>> leads to the performance regression. Since this commit, When we
>> trigger a
>> write fault on a anon THP, we split the PMD and allocate a 4K
>> page, instead
>> of allocating the full anon THP. When a VM is migrating (based on
>> qemu[2]),
>> if the page is marked zero page in the source VM, the destination
>> VM will
>> call mmap and read the region to allocate memory, making the
>> region mapped
>> by the zero THP. When we run memtester in the destination VM after VM
>> migration finishes, memtester(in VM) will allocate large amounts
>> of free
>> memory and write to them, cause CoW of anon THP and THP split, further
>> cause performance regression. After reverting this commit, performance
>> regression disappears.
>>
>>
>> You talk about COW of anon THP, whereby your scenario really only
>> relied on COW of the huge zeropage.
>>
>> Wouldn’t you would get a similar result when disabling the huge zeropage?
>>
>>
>>
>> This commit optimises some scenarios such as Redis, but may lead to
>> performance regression in some other scenarios, such as VM migration.
>> How could we solve this issue? Maybe we could add a new sysctl to
>> let users
>> decide whether to CoW the full anon THP or not?
>>
>>
>> I‘m not convinced the use case you present really warrants a toggle
>> for that. In your case you only want to change semantics on COW fault
>> to the huge zeropage. But …
>>
>> Using preallocation in QEMU will give you all anon THP right from the
>> start, avoiding any cow. Sure, you consume all memory right away, but
>> after all that‘s what your use case triggers either way. And it might
>> all be even faster. :)
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
> Thanks for reply. The two methods both work. But they both lead to large
> memory consumption even though the VM doesn't need so much memory right now.
Please see
https://lkml.kernel.org/r/1cfae0c0-96a2-4308-9c62-f7a640520242@arm.com
on a related discussion.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-04 13:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-29 9:18 Jinjiang Tu
2024-06-29 9:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04 13:31 ` Jinjiang Tu
2024-07-04 13:55 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
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