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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>
Cc: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Nanyong Sun <sunnanyong@huawei.com>,
	aarcange@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	baohua@kernel.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	jhubbard@nvidia.com, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mike.kravetz@oracle.com,
	rcampbell@nvidia.com, william.kucharski@oracle.com,
	yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com, ziy@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [Question] performance regression after VM migration due to anon THP split in CoW
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 15:55:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <734ab5c8-5791-45d4-b3e5-6ee4d7cd61f4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4881e19d-d556-4b54-a788-bf1e111ff24a@huawei.com>

On 04.07.24 15:31, Jinjiang Tu wrote:
> 
> 在 2024/6/29 17:45, David Hildenbrand 写道:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Likely the mailing lists won‘t like my mail from this Google Mail
>> client ;)
>>
>> Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com> schrieb am Sa. 29. Juni 2024 um 11:18:
>>
>>      Hi,
>>
>>      We noticed a performance regression in benchmark memtester[1] after
>>      upgrading the kernel. THP is enabled by default
>>      (/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
>>      is set to "always"). The issue arises when we migrate a virtual
>>      machine
>>      that has 125G total memory and 124G free memory to another host.
>>      And then,
>>      we run the command `memtester 120G` in the VM. The benchmark takes
>>      about
>>      20 seconds to consume 120G memory in v4.18, but takes about 160
>>      seconds in
>>      v5.10. This issue exists in mainline kernel too.
>>
>>
>> Simple: use preallocation in QEMU. „prealloc=on“ for host memory
>> backends, for example.
>>
>>
>>      We find commit 3917c80280c9 ("thp: change CoW semantics for anon-THP")
>>      leads to the performance regression. Since this commit, When we
>>      trigger a
>>      write fault on a anon THP, we split the PMD and allocate a 4K
>>      page, instead
>>      of allocating the full anon THP. When a VM is migrating (based on
>>      qemu[2]),
>>      if the page is marked zero page in the source VM, the destination
>>      VM will
>>      call mmap and read the region to allocate memory, making the
>>      region mapped
>>      by the zero THP. When we run memtester in the destination VM after VM
>>      migration finishes, memtester(in VM) will allocate large amounts
>>      of free
>>      memory and write to them, cause CoW of anon THP and THP split, further
>>      cause performance regression. After reverting this commit, performance
>>      regression disappears.
>>
>>
>> You talk about COW of anon THP, whereby your scenario really only
>> relied on COW of the huge zeropage.
>>
>> Wouldn’t you would get a similar result when disabling the huge zeropage?
>>
>>
>>
>>      This commit optimises some scenarios such as Redis, but may lead to
>>      performance regression in some other scenarios, such as VM migration.
>>      How could we solve this issue? Maybe we could add a new sysctl to
>>      let users
>>      decide whether to CoW the full anon THP or not?
>>
>>
>> I‘m not convinced the use case you present really warrants a toggle
>> for that. In your case you only want to change semantics on COW fault
>> to the huge zeropage. But …
>>
>> Using preallocation in QEMU will give you all anon THP right from the
>> start, avoiding any cow. Sure, you consume all memory right away, but
>> after all that‘s what your use case triggers either way. And it might
>> all be even faster. :)
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
> Thanks for reply. The two methods both work. But they both lead to large
> memory consumption even though the VM doesn't need so much memory right now.

Please see

https://lkml.kernel.org/r/1cfae0c0-96a2-4308-9c62-f7a640520242@arm.com

on a related discussion.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



      reply	other threads:[~2024-07-04 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-29  9:18 Jinjiang Tu
2024-06-29  9:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04 13:31   ` Jinjiang Tu
2024-07-04 13:55     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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