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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/10] mm/vma: add+use vma lockdep acquire/release defines
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 11:48:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <71c45f74-0fb5-4ec8-aa67-d700df94b617@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260128113749.osNjwNqo@linutronix.de>

On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 12:37:49PM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-01-23 20:12:14 [+0000], Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > --- a/include/linux/mmap_lock.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/mmap_lock.h
> > @@ -78,6 +78,37 @@ static inline void mmap_assert_write_locked(const struct mm_struct *mm)
> …
> > +/* Only meaningful if CONFIG_LOCK_STAT is defined. */
> > +#define __vma_lockdep_stat_mark_acquired(vma) \
> > +	lock_acquired(&vma->vmlock_dep_map, _RET_IP_)
> > +
>
> After going through the remaining series, I don't think I found a
> matching lock_contended(). So perf/ tracing just give you a few
> lock-acquired events. Wouldn't it make sense to also some
> lock_contended() events where the caller had to wait before it could
> acquire the lock?

Yeah I did wonder about this actually. The series really just abstracts this
part, so I think doing something with that should be a follow-up.

Suren - what was your intent with this? I did wonder what we actually really
accomplished with this.

VMA locks are always try-locks.

Write locks can't be contended against one another since VMAs are always a
per-process entity and not obtained remotely, so either a VMA is write-locked by
us or not write-locked, never write-locked by anybody else.

Read locks immediately give up if the VMA is write locked.

Would we want to record a lock_contended() event in that case I guess then?

I don't think we'd want to do that if the VMA were detached, only if it were
write-locked?

>
> Sebastian

Cheers, Lorenzo


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-28 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-23 20:12 [PATCH v4 00/10] mm: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() helper Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] mm/vma: rename VMA_LOCK_OFFSET to VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-30 16:50   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] mm/vma: document possible vma->vm_refcnt values and reference comment Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26  5:15   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-26  9:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26  9:40   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-30 17:06   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] mm/vma: rename is_vma_write_only(), separate out shared refcount put Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26  5:36   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-26  9:45     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 10:12   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] mm/vma: add+use vma lockdep acquire/release defines Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-28 11:18   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-28 11:31     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-28 11:37   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-28 11:48     ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-01-29 21:30       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] mm/vma: de-duplicate __vma_enter_locked() error path Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] mm/vma: clean up __vma_enter/exit_locked() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26  5:47   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-26  9:45     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 10:25   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] mm/vma: introduce helper struct + thread through exclusive lock fns Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 11:16   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26 16:09     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 19:38       ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-26 18:15     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] mm/vma: improve and document __is_vma_write_locked() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 11:30   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26 16:29     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 19:21       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-28 11:51         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-28 13:01           ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-28 18:52             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-26 16:30   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] mm/vma: update vma_assert_locked() to use lockdep Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 13:42   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26 16:44     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 17:16       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 17:37   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] mm/vma: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] mm: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() helper Andrew Morton

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