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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: david@redhat.com, chrisl@kernel.org, yuzhao@google.com,
	hanchuanhua@oppo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	willy@infradead.org, ying.huang@intel.com, xiang@kernel.org,
	mhocko@suse.com, shy828301@gmail.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: hold PTL from the first PTE while reclaiming a large folio
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 12:20:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <706b7129-85f6-4470-9fd9-f955a8e6bd7c@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240304103757.235352-1-21cnbao@gmail.com>

Hi Barry,

On 04/03/2024 10:37, Barry Song wrote:
> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
> 
> page_vma_mapped_walk() within try_to_unmap_one() races with other
> PTEs modification such as break-before-make, while iterating PTEs
> of a large folio, it will only begin to acquire PTL after it gets
> a valid(present) PTE. break-before-make intermediately sets PTEs
> to pte_none. Thus, a large folio's PTEs might be partially skipped
> in try_to_unmap_one().

I just want to check my understanding here - I think the problem occurs for
PTE-mapped, PMD-sized folios as well as smaller-than-PMD-size large folios? Now
that I've had a look at the code and have a better understanding, I think that
must be the case? And therefore this problem exists independently of my work to
support swap-out of mTHP? (From your previous report I was under the impression
that it only affected mTHP).

Its just that the problem is becoming more pronounced because with mTHP,
PTE-mapped large folios are much more common?

> For example, for an anon folio, after try_to_unmap_one(), we may
> have PTE0 present, while PTE1 ~ PTE(nr_pages - 1) are swap entries.
> So folio will be still mapped, the folio fails to be reclaimed.
> What’s even more worrying is, its PTEs are no longer in a unified
> state. This might lead to accident folio_split() afterwards. And
> since a part of PTEs are now swap entries, accessing them will
> incur page fault - do_swap_page.
> It creates both anxiety and more expense. While we can't avoid
> userspace's unmap to break up unified PTEs such as CONT-PTE for
> a large folio, we can indeed keep away from kernel's breaking up
> them due to its code design.
> This patch is holding PTL from PTE0, thus, the folio will either
> be entirely reclaimed or entirely kept. On the other hand, this
> approach doesn't increase PTL contention. Even w/o the patch,
> page_vma_mapped_walk() will always get PTL after it sometimes
> skips one or two PTEs because intermediate break-before-makes
> are short, according to test. Of course, even w/o this patch,
> the vast majority of try_to_unmap_one still can get PTL from
> PTE0. This patch makes the number 100%.
> The other option is that we can give up in try_to_unmap_one
> once we find PTE0 is not the first entry we get PTL, we call
> page_vma_mapped_walk_done() to end the iteration at this case.
> This will keep the unified PTEs while the folio isn't reclaimed.
> The result is quite similar with small folios with one PTE -
> either entirely reclaimed or entirely kept.
> Reclaiming large folios by holding PTL from PTE0 seems a better
> option comparing to giving up after detecting PTL begins from
> non-PTE0.
> 
> Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
> Signed-off-by: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>

Do we need a Fixes tag?

> ---
>  mm/vmscan.c | 11 +++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 0b888a2afa58..e4722fbbcd0c 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1270,6 +1270,17 @@ static unsigned int shrink_folio_list(struct list_head *folio_list,
>  
>  			if (folio_test_pmd_mappable(folio))
>  				flags |= TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD;
> +			/*
> +			 * if page table lock is not held from the first PTE of
> +			 * a large folio, some PTEs might be skipped because of
> +			 * races with break-before-make, for example, PTEs can
> +			 * be pte_none intermediately, thus one or more PTEs
> +			 * might be skipped in try_to_unmap_one, we might result
> +			 * in a large folio is partially mapped and partially
> +			 * unmapped after try_to_unmap
> +			 */
> +			if (folio_test_large(folio))
> +				flags |= TTU_SYNC;

This looks sensible to me after thinking about it for a while. But I also have a
gut feeling that there might be some more subtleties that are going over my
head, since I'm not expert in this area. So will leave others to provide R-b :)

Thanks,
Ryan

>  
>  			try_to_unmap(folio, flags);
>  			if (folio_mapped(folio)) {



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-04 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04 10:37 Barry Song
2024-03-04 12:20 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2024-03-04 12:41   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 13:03     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 14:27       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 20:42         ` Barry Song
2024-03-04 21:02           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 21:41             ` Barry Song
2024-03-04 21:04     ` Barry Song
2024-03-04 21:15       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 22:29         ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  7:53           ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  9:02             ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  9:10               ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  9:21                 ` Barry Song
2024-03-05 10:28                   ` Barry Song
2024-03-04 22:02       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  7:50     ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-04 21:57   ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  8:54     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:08       ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  9:11         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:15           ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  7:28 ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  8:56   ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  9:04     ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  9:08     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:11       ` Barry Song

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