From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] hard-to-hit mm_struct UAF due to insufficiently careful vma_refcount_put() wrt SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 10:38:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <702ab3bb-db4c-49cb-bb77-4e864cae610e@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpHk_k5eVhAZTK=jJvES9311Hyo_YXxY-S56EAYSBuRVRQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 7/24/25 04:30, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> So, I think vma_refcount_put() can mmgrab(vma->mm) before calling
> __refcount_dec_and_test(), to stabilize that mm and then mmdrop()
> after it calls rcuwait_wake_up(). What do you think about this
> approach, folks?
Yeah except it would be wasteful to do for all vma_refcount_put(). Should be
enough to have this version (as Jann suggested) for inval_end_read: part of
lock_vma_under_rcu. I think we need it also for the vma_refcount_put() done
in vma_start_read() when we fail the seqcount check? I think in that case
the same thing can be happening too, just with different race windows?
Also as Jann suggested, maybe it's not great (or even safe) to perform
__mmdrop() under rcu? And maybe some vma_start_read() users are even more
restricted? Maybe then we'd need to make __mmdrop_delayed() not RT-only, and
use that.
>>
>> Vlastimil is right that if A1 was able to successfully elevate vma's
>> refcount then:
>> 1. vma must be attached to some valid mm. This is true because if the
>> vma is detached, vma_start_read() would not be able to elevate its
>> refcount. Once vma_start_read() elevates the refcount, vma will not
>> detach from under us because vma_mark_detached() will block until no
>> readers are using the vma.
>> 2. vma->mm can't be destroyed from under us because of that
>> exit_mmap()->vma_mark_detached() which again will ensure no readers
>> are holding a reference to the vmas of that mm.
>>
>> So, a special version of vma_refcount_put() that takes mm as a
>> parameter and does mmgrab/mmdrop before using that mm might work. I'll
>> do some more digging and maybe test this solution with your reproducer
>> to see if that works as I would expect.
>> Thanks,
>> Suren.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-24 8:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-23 16:26 Jann Horn
2025-07-23 17:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 17:49 ` Jann Horn
2025-07-23 17:55 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-23 19:01 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 0:13 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-24 4:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 18:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-23 18:19 ` Jann Horn
2025-07-23 18:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 19:52 ` Jann Horn
2025-07-23 20:00 ` Jann Horn
2025-07-24 5:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 5:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 20:27 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-24 2:30 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-24 8:38 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-07-24 10:53 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 14:29 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-24 14:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-24 14:52 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-24 14:45 ` Jann Horn
2025-07-24 16:36 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-28 17:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-23 18:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 18:30 ` Jann Horn
2025-07-23 18:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 19:43 ` Jann Horn
2025-07-24 5:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 14:50 ` Jann Horn
2025-07-24 14:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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