From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
oliver.sang@intel.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: avoid use of BIT() macro for initialising VMA flags
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2025 09:28:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7006fa60-f4d3-4e7d-8c2b-974e9e4a1224@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7fb4a23-5ece-4a03-8f0d-58517c388eb7@lucifer.local>
On 12/8/25 17:42, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 06, 2025 at 04:43:57PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 09:34:49PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
>> > On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 19:18:56 +0000
>> > Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 06:43:42PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
>> > > > On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 17:50:37 +0000
>> > > > Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Commit 2b6a3f061f11 ("mm: declare VMA flags by bit") significantly changed
>> > > > > how VMA flags are declared, utilising an enum of VMA bit values and
>> > > > > ifdef-fery VM_xxx flag declarations via macro.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As part of this change, it uses INIT_VM_FLAG() to define VM_xxx flags from
>> > > > > the newly introduced VMA bit numbers.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > However, use of this macro results in apparently unfortunate macro
>> > > > > expansion and resulted in a performance degradation.This appears to be due
>> > > > > to the (__force int), which is required for the sparse typechecking to
>> > > > > work.
>> > > >
>> > > > Does sparse complain if you just add 0? As in:
>> > > > #define INIT_VM_FLAG(name) BIT(VMA_ ## name ## _BIT + 0u)
>> > > >
>> > > > That should change the type without affecting what BIT() expands to.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks, checked that and unfortunately that doesn't satisfy sparse :)
>> > >
>> > > I don't think it's too crazy to use 1UL << here, just very frustrating (TM)
>> > > that this is an issue.
>> >
>> > I might use some of my copious spare time (ha) to see why BIT() fails.
>> > I bet it is just too complex for its own good.
>> > Personally I'm fine with both explicit (1ul << n) and hex constants.
>> > The latter are definitely most useful if you ever look at hexdumps.
>>
>> Thanks :) yeah I just didn't want to go down that rabbit hole myself as I seemed
>> to have the answer and wanted to get it fixed, but obviously am quite curious as
>> to what on earth is causing that.
>
> I did wonder about _calc_vm_trans(), given the 'interesting' stuff it does.
It's unlikely that this affects anything in what the benchmark stresses.
As Mateusz pointed out off-list, the profiles look like mutexes are doing
less optimistic spinning and more sleeping. Which IMHO isn't something that
this change can directly affect.
My own bloat-o-meter test before/after the fix suggests no changed code
generation (as I would indeed expect):
At least in my case it doesn't seem to be altering the generated code (and
I would expect it wouldn't) except some weird symbols that don't look
related at all:
> ./scripts/bloat-o-meter vmlinux.o vmlinux.o.after
add/remove: 0/0 grow/shrink: 0/7 up/down: 0/-277 (-277)
Function old new delta
print_fmt_dax_pte_fault_class 1167 1160 -7
print_fmt_dax_pmd_load_hole_class 308 301 -7
print_fmt_dax_pmd_fault_class 1252 1245 -7
saved_rsp 3117296 3117232 -64
saved_rdi 3117312 3117248 -64
saved_rbx 3117304 3117240 -64
saved_rbp 3117328 3117264 -64
Total: Before=3350750464, After=3350750187, chg -0.00%
I don't know what happened to those functions above. Could be just
insufficient build reproducibility?
Maybe the effect is just that something slightly shifts in the cpu caches?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-09 8:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-05 17:50 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-05 17:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-05 18:43 ` David Laight
2025-12-05 19:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-05 21:34 ` David Laight
2025-12-06 16:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-08 16:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-08 18:57 ` David Laight
2025-12-09 8:28 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-12-09 9:26 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-12-10 16:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-10 22:44 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-12-12 12:24 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-12-12 13:02 ` David Laight
2025-12-12 13:13 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-12-12 15:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-12 17:26 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-12-05 21:49 ` David Laight
2025-12-06 16:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-05 19:56 ` John Hubbard
2025-12-06 16:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-05 20:15 ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-05 20:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-06 0:40 ` Stephen Rothwell
2025-12-06 3:12 ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-06 16:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-12-06 1:14 ` Al Viro
2025-12-06 1:26 ` Al Viro
2025-12-06 12:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-06 16:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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