From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
"JP Kobryn" <inwardvessel@gmail.com>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Meta kernel team" <kernel-team@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] cgroup: make css_rstat_updated nmi safe
Date: Thu, 1 May 2025 15:10:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6u7ccequ5ye3e4iqblcdeqsigindo3xjpsvkdb6hyaw7cpjddc@u2ujv7ymlxc6> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aBIiNMXIl6vyaNQ6@Asmaa.>
On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 06:14:28AM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
[...]
> > +
> > + if (!_css_rstat_cpu_trylock(css, cpu, &flags)) {
>
>
> IIUC this trylock will only fail if a BPF program runs in NMI context
> and tries to update cgroup stats, interrupting a context that is already
> holding the lock (i.e. updating or flushing stats).
>
Correct (though note that flushing side can be on a different CPU).
> How often does this happen in practice tho? Is it worth the complexity?
This is about correctness, so even a chance of occurance need the
solution.
>
> I wonder if it's better if we make css_rstat_updated() inherently
> lockless instead.
>
> What if css_rstat_updated() always just adds to a lockless tree,
Here I assume you meant lockless list instead of tree.
> and we
> defer constructing the proper tree to the flushing side? This should
> make updates generally faster and avoids locking or disabling interrupts
> in the fast path. We essentially push more work to the flushing side.
>
> We may be able to consolidate some of the code too if all the logic
> manipulating the tree is on the flushing side.
>
> WDYT? Am I missing something here?
>
Yes this can be done but I don't think we need to tie that to current
series. I think we can start with lockless in the nmi context and then
iteratively make css_rstat_updated() lockless for all contexts.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-01 22:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-29 6:12 [RFC PATCH 0/3] cgroup: nmi safe css_rstat_updated Shakeel Butt
2025-04-29 6:12 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] llist: add list_add_iff_not_on_list() Shakeel Butt
2025-04-30 12:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] llist: add list_add_iff_not_on_list()g Yosry Ahmed
2025-04-29 6:12 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] cgroup: support to enable nmi-safe css_rstat_updated Shakeel Butt
2025-04-29 6:12 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] cgroup: make css_rstat_updated nmi safe Shakeel Butt
2025-04-30 13:14 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-05-01 22:10 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-05-06 9:41 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-05-06 19:30 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-07 6:52 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-04-29 6:12 ` [OFFLIST PATCH 1/2] cgroup: use separate rstat trees for each subsystem Shakeel Butt
2025-04-29 6:12 ` [OFFLIST PATCH 2/2] cgroup: use subsystem-specific rstat locks to avoid contention Shakeel Butt
2025-04-29 6:15 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21 22:23 ` Klara Modin
2025-05-21 22:29 ` Tejun Heo
2025-05-21 23:23 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21 23:33 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21 23:47 ` JP Kobryn
2025-05-21 23:50 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-05-21 23:52 ` JP Kobryn
2025-05-21 23:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-29 6:15 ` [OFFLIST PATCH 1/2] cgroup: use separate rstat trees for each subsystem Shakeel Butt
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