From: Igor Belousov <igor.b@beldev.am>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
vitaly.wool@konsulko.se, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: add zblock allocator
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 21:59:58 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e1c6b20481c2cb41930d37da4fe8aeb@beldev.am> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250408195533.GA99052@cmpxchg.org>
Hi Johannes,
>> Sure. zstd/8 cores/make -j32:
>>
>> zsmalloc:
>> real 7m36.413s
>> user 38m0.481s
>> sys 7m19.108s
>> Zswap: 211028 kB
>> Zswapped: 925904 kB
>> zswpin 397851
>> zswpout 1625707
>> zswpwb 5126
>>
>> zblock:
>> real 7m55.009s
>> user 39m23.147s
>> sys 7m44.004s
>> Zswap: 253068 kB
>> Zswapped: 919956 kB
>> zswpin 456843
>> zswpout 2058963
>> zswpwb 3921
>
> So zstd results in nearly double the compression ratio, which in turn
> cuts total execution time *almost in half*.
>
> The numbers speak for themselves. Compression efficiency >>> allocator
> speed, because compression efficiency ultimately drives the continuous
> *rate* at which allocations need to occur. You're trying to optimize a
> constant coefficient at the expense of a higher-order one, which is a
> losing proposition.
Actually there's a slight bug in zblock code for 4K page case which
caused storage inefficiency for small (== well compressed) memory
blocks. With that one fixed, the results look a lot brighter for zblock:
1. zblock/zstd/8 cores/make -j32 bzImage
real 7m28.290s
user 37m27.055s
sys 7m18.629s
Zswap: 221516 kB
Zswapped: 904104 kB
zswpin 425424
zswpout 2011503
zswpwb 4111
2a. zblock/zstd/16 cores/make -j16 modules
real 15m53.119s
user 199m45.722s
sys 36m21.544s
zswpin 26600
zswpout 287021
zswpwb 0
Zswap: 205908 kB
Zswapped: 858516 kB
2b. zsmalloc/zstd/16 cores/make -j16 modules
real 16m31.052s
user 207m3.612s
sys 37m49.891s
zswpin 27044
zswpout 296763
zswpwb 61
Zswap: 198740 kB
Zswapped: 868020 kB
So what we see is:
* on 4K pages, zblock matches zsmalloc with regard to storage density on
longer tests and gives better performance in virtually all scenarios
* on 16K pages, zblock is superior to zsmalloc in terms of both
performance and storage density.
> This is a general NAK from me on any new allocators that cannot match
> or outdo zsmalloc storage density in common scenarios. I'm sorry, but
> I really don't see any reason to do this.
Given the above, I sincerely hope that you reconsider.
Thanks,
Igor
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-09 17:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-04 19:28 Vitaly Wool
2025-04-04 20:03 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-04-04 23:56 ` Vitaly
2025-04-06 7:53 ` Igor Belousov
2025-04-07 9:00 ` Igor Belousov
2025-04-07 15:51 ` Nhat Pham
2025-04-07 16:44 ` Igor Belousov
2025-04-07 17:00 ` Nhat Pham
2025-04-08 9:20 ` Igor Belousov
2025-04-08 19:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-04-08 21:11 ` Nhat Pham
2025-04-08 21:38 ` Vitaly Wool
2025-04-08 22:05 ` Nhat Pham
2025-04-08 23:12 ` Vitaly Wool
2025-04-09 17:59 ` Igor Belousov [this message]
2025-04-10 7:02 ` Igor Belousov
2025-04-07 15:54 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-04-07 18:26 ` Vitaly Wool
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