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From: Aubrey <aubreylee@gmail.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Sonic Zhang <sonic.adi@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	vapier.adi@gmail.com
Subject: Re: The VFS cache is not freed when there is not enough free memory to allocate
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:27:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d6a94c50611290127u2b26976en1100217a69d651c0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e5ebad50611282317r55c22228qa5333306ccfff28e@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/29/06, Sonic Zhang <sonic.adi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forward to the mailing list.
>
> > On 11/27/06, Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> >> I haven't actually written any nommu userspace code, but it is obvious
> >> that you must try to keep malloc to <= PAGE_SIZE (although order 2 and
> >> even 3 allocations seem to be reasonable, from process context)... Then
> >> you would use something a bit more advanced than a linear array to store
> >> data (a pagetable-like radix tree would be a nice, easy idea).
> >>
> >
> > But, even we split the 8M memory into 2048 x 4k blocks, we still face
> > this failure. The key problem is that available memory is small than
> > 2048 x 4k, while there are still a lot of VFS cache. The VFS cache can
> > be freed, but kernel allocation function ignores it. See the new test
> > application.
>
>
> Which kernel allocation function? If you can provide more details I'd
> like to get to the bottom of this.

I posted it here, I think you missed it. So forwarded it to you.

>
> Because the anonymous memory allocation in mm/nommu.c is all allocated
> with GFP_KERNEL from process context, and in that case, the allocator
> should not fail but call into page reclaim which in turn will free VFS
> caches.
>
>
>
> > What's a better way to free the VFS cache in memory allocator?
>
>
> It should be freeing it for you, so I'm not quite sure what is going
> on. Can you send over the kernel messages you see when the allocation
> fails?

I don't think so. The kernel doesn't attempt to free it. The log is
included in the mail I forwarded to you.

>
> Also, do you happen to know of a reasonable toolchain + emulator setup
> that I could test the nommu kernel with?

A project named skyeye.
http://www.skyeye.org/index.shtml

-Aubrey

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-29  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-22  7:51 Aubrey
2006-11-22  8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-11-22 10:02   ` Aubrey
2006-11-22 10:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-11-22 11:09       ` Aubrey
2006-11-27  1:34       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-11-27  7:39     ` Nick Piggin
2006-11-29  7:17       ` Sonic Zhang
2006-11-29  9:27         ` Aubrey [this message]
2006-11-29  9:30           ` Nick Piggin
2006-11-30 12:54             ` Aubrey
2006-11-30 21:18               ` Nick Piggin
2006-12-01 10:00                 ` Aubrey
2006-11-28 13:29 Robin Getz
2006-11-28 14:41 ` Nick Piggin

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