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From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Deepanshu Kartikey <kartikey406@gmail.com>,
	Vivek Kasireddy <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	syzbot+f64019ba229e3a5c411b@syzkaller.appspotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/memfd: clear hugetlb pages on allocation
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:09:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a63dbb8-58f7-4511-8090-18a58c3206d8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRRPvn4DYAhuGtq3@localhost.localdomain>

On 12.11.25 10:13, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 10:55:03PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>> Thanks a lot, Deepanshu and syzbot: this sounds horrid, and important
>> to fix very soon; and wlll need a Fixes tag (with stable Cc'ed when
>> the fix goes into mm.git), I presume it's
>>
>> Fixes: 89c1905d9c14 ("mm/gup: introduce memfd_pin_folios() for pinning memfd folios")
>>
>> But although my name appears against mm/memfd.c, the truth is I know
>> little of hugetlb (maintainers now addressed), and when its folios
>> are supposed to get zeroed (would a __GFP_ZERO somewhere be better?).
>>
>> I was puzzled by how udmabuf came into the picture, since hugetlbfs
>> has always supported the read (not write) system call: but see now
>> that there is this surprising backdoor into the hugetlb subsystem,
>> via memfd and GUP pinning.
>>
>> And where does that folio get marked uptodate, or is "uptodate"
>> irrelevant on hugetlbfs?  Are the right locks taken, or could
>> there be races when adding to hugetlbfs cache in this way?
> 
> Thanks Hugh for raising this up.
> 
> memfd_alloc_folio() seems to try to recreate what hugetlb_no_page()
> would do (slightly different though).

Can we factor that out to merge both paths?

> 
> The thing is that as far as I know, we should grab hugetlb mutex before
> trying to add a new page in the pagecache, per comment in
> hugetlb_fault():
> 
>   "
>     /*
>      * Serialize hugepage allocation and instantiation, so that we don't
>      * get spurious allocation failures if two CPUs race to instantiate
>      * the same page in the page cache.
>      */
>   "
> 
> and at least that is what all callers of hugetlb_add_to_page_cache() do
> at this moment, all except memfd_alloc_folio(), so I guess this one
> needs fixing.
> 
> Regarding the uptodate question, I do not see what is special about this situation
> that we would not need it.
> We seem to be marking the folio uptodate every time we do allocate a folio __and__
> before adding it into the pagecache (which is expected, right?).

Right, at least filemap.c heavily depends on it being set (I don't think 
hugetlb itself needs it).

> 
> Now, for the GFP_ZERO question.
> This one is nasty.
> hugetlb_reserve_pages() will allocate surplus folios without zeroing, but those
> will be zeroed in the faulting path before mapping them into userspace pagetables
> (see folio_zero_user() in hugetlb_no_page()).
> So unless I am missing something we need to zero them in this case as well.

I assume we want to avoid GFP_ZERO and use folio_zero_user(), which is 
optimized for zeroing huge/gigantic pages.


-- 
Cheers

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-12 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-12  3:16 Deepanshu Kartikey
2025-11-12  6:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-11-12  7:28   ` Deepanshu Kartikey
2025-11-12  7:55     ` Hugh Dickins
2025-11-12  9:13   ` Oscar Salvador
2025-11-12  9:26     ` Deepanshu Kartikey
2025-11-12 10:09     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-11-12 11:56       ` Oscar Salvador
2025-11-12 12:06         ` Deepanshu Kartikey
2025-11-12 14:54           ` Deepanshu Kartikey

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