From: Motohiro Kosaki <Motohiro.Kosaki@us.fujitsu.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Bob Liu <bob.liu@oracle.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Motohiro Kosaki JP <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] mm/mlock: fix BUG_ON unlocked page for nolinear VMAs
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 08:47:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6B2BA408B38BA1478B473C31C3D2074E2BF812BC82@SV-EXCHANGE1.Corp.FC.LOCAL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzq1iQqddGo-m=vutwMYn5CPf65Ergov5svKR4AWC3rUQ@mail.gmail.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linus971@gmail.com [mailto:linus971@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Linus
> Torvalds
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 7:18 PM
> To: Vlastimil Babka
> Cc: Sasha Levin; Andrew Morton; Wanpeng Li; Michel Lespinasse; Bob Liu;
> Nick Piggin; Motohiro Kosaki JP; Rik van Riel; David Rientjes; Mel Gorman;
> Minchan Kim; Hugh Dickins; Johannes Weiner; linux-mm; Linux Kernel Mailing
> List
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mlock: fix BUG_ON unlocked page for nolinear
> VMAs
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> >
> > I'm for going with the removal of BUG_ON. The TestSetPageMlocked
> > should provide enough race protection.
>
> Maybe. But dammit, that's subtle, and I don't think you're even right.
>
> It basically depends on mlock_vma_page() and munlock_vma_page() being
> able to run CONCURRENTLY on the same page. In particular, you could have a
> mlock_vma_page() set the bit on one CPU, and munlock_vma_page()
> immediately clearing it on another, and then the rest of those functions
> could run with a totally arbitrary interleaving when working with the exact
> same page.
>
> They both do basically
>
> if (!isolate_lru_page(page))
> putback_lru_page(page);
>
> but one or the other would randomly win the race (it's internally protected
> by the lru lock), and *if* the munlock_vma_page() wins it, it would also do
>
> try_to_munlock(page);
>
> but if mlock_vma_page() wins it, that wouldn't happen. That looks entirely
> broken - you end up with the PageMlocked bit clear, but
> try_to_munlock() was never called on that page, because
> mlock_vma_page() got to the page isolation before the "subsequent"
> munlock_vma_page().
>
> And this is very much what the page lock serialization would prevent.
> So no, the PageMlocked in *no* way gives serialization. It's an atomic bit op,
> yes, but that only "serializes" in one direction, not when you can have a mix
> of bit setting and clearing.
>
> So quite frankly, I think you're wrong. The BUG_ON() is correct, or at least
> enforces some kind of ordering. And try_to_unmap_cluster() is just broken
> in calling that without the page being locked. That's my opinion. There may
> be some *other* reason why it all happens to work, but no,
> "TestSetPageMlocked should provide enough race protection" is simply not
> true, and even if it were, it's way too subtle and odd to be a good rule.
>
> So I really object to just removing the BUG_ON(). Not with a *lot* more
> explanation as to why these kinds of issues wouldn't matter.
I don't have a perfect answer. But I can explain a bit history. Let's me try.
First off, 5 years ago, Lee's original putback_lru_page() implementation required
page-lock, but I removed the restriction months later. That's why we can see
strange BUG_ON here.
5 years ago, both mlock(2) and munlock(2) called do_mlock() and it was protected by
mmap_sem (write mdoe). Then, mlock and munlock had no race.
Now, __mm_populate() (called by mlock(2)) is only protected by mmap_sem read-mode. However it is enough to
protect against munlock.
Next, In case of mlock vs reclaim, the key is that mlock(2) has two step operation. 1) turn on VM_LOCKED under
mmap_sem write-mode, 2) turn on Page_Mlocked under mmap_sem read-mode. If reclaim race against step (1),
reclaim must lose because it uses trylock. On the other hand, if reclaim race against step (2), reclaim must detect
VM_LOCKED because both VM_LOCKED modifier and observer take mmap-sem.
By the way, page isolation is still necessary because we need to protect another page modification like page migration.
My memory was alomostly flushed and I might lost some technical concern and past discussion. Please point me out,
If I am overlooking something.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-06 16:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-17 8:05 Wanpeng Li
2013-12-18 3:14 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-12-18 3:16 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-12-18 3:23 ` Wanpeng Li
[not found] ` <20131218032329.GA6044@hacker.(null)>
2013-12-18 3:32 ` Sasha Levin
2013-12-18 4:12 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-12-18 9:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2013-12-18 9:23 ` Wanpeng Li
[not found] ` <52b1699f.87293c0a.75d1.34d3SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2013-12-18 21:43 ` Andrew Morton
2014-01-03 20:17 ` Sasha Levin
2014-01-03 20:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-03 23:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-01-03 23:56 ` Andrew Morton
2014-01-04 3:03 ` Sasha Levin
2014-01-04 0:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-04 8:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-01-05 0:27 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-06 16:47 ` Motohiro Kosaki [this message]
2014-01-06 22:01 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-01-07 5:27 ` Wanpeng Li
2014-01-07 15:01 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-01-08 1:06 ` Bob Liu
2014-01-08 2:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-10 17:48 ` Motohiro Kosaki
2014-01-13 14:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-01-14 11:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-01-04 3:31 ` Bob Liu
2013-12-18 8:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2013-12-18 9:01 ` Wanpeng Li
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