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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/8] mm,numa: N_PRIVATE node isolation for device-managed memory
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 13:24:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <696566a1e228d_2071810076@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWUs8Fx2CG07F81e@yury>

Yury Norov wrote:
[..]
> > Dan Williams convinced me to go with N_PRIVATE, but this is really a
> > bikeshed topic
> 
> No it's not. To me (OK, an almost random reader in this discussion),
> N_PRIVATE is a pretty confusing name. It doesn't answer the question:
> private what? N_PRIVATE_MEMORY is better in that department, isn't?
> 
> But taking into account isolcpus, maybe N_ISOLMEM?
> 
> > - we could call it N_BOBERT until we find consensus.
> 
> Please give it the right name well describing the scope and purpose of
> the new restriction policy before moving forward.

...this is the definition of a bikeshed discussion, and bikeshed's are
important for building consensus. The argument for N_PRIVATE is with
respect to looking at this from the perspective of the other node_states
that do not have the _MEMORY designation particularly _ONLINE and the
fact that the other _MEMORY states implied zone implications whereas
N_PRIVATE can span zones.

I agree with Gregory the name does not matter as much as the
documentation explaining what the name means. I am ok if others do not
sign onto the rationale for why not include _MEMORY, but lets capture
something that tries to clarify that this is a unique node state that
can have "all of the above" memory types relative to the existing
_MEMORY states.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-12 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-08 20:37 Gregory Price
2026-01-08 20:37 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/8] numa,memory_hotplug: create N_PRIVATE (Private Nodes) Gregory Price
2026-01-08 20:37 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/8] mm: constify oom_control, scan_control, and alloc_context nodemask Gregory Price
2026-01-08 20:37 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/8] mm: restrict slub, compaction, and page_alloc to sysram Gregory Price
2026-01-08 20:37 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/8] cpuset: introduce cpuset.mems.sysram Gregory Price
2026-01-12 17:56   ` Yury Norov
2026-01-08 20:37 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/8] Documentation/admin-guide/cgroups: update docs for mems_allowed Gregory Price
2026-01-12 14:30   ` Michal Koutný
2026-01-12 15:25     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-08 20:37 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/8] drivers/cxl/core/region: add private_region Gregory Price
2026-01-08 20:37 ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/8] mm/zswap: compressed ram direct integration Gregory Price
2026-01-09 16:00   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-09 17:03     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-09 21:40     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:13       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-08 20:37 ` [RFC PATCH v3 8/8] drivers/cxl: add zswap private_region type Gregory Price
2026-01-12 11:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/8] mm,numa: N_PRIVATE node isolation for device-managed memory Balbir Singh
2026-01-12 14:36   ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 17:18     ` Yury Norov
2026-01-12 17:36       ` Gregory Price
2026-01-12 21:24       ` dan.j.williams [this message]
2026-01-12 21:57         ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-12 22:10           ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-12 22:54             ` Balbir Singh

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