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etiquette. I'd be more > > forgiving, but this is at v2 and you've not cc'd KEY people. Twice. This is > > totally unacceptable. See [0] if you are unsure of how to do so. > > This feels excessive to me. linux-mm averages a mere 140 mesages/day > and it seems reasonable to assume that key people are spending their 5 > minutes to scroll through the email subjects. In practice we did all miss it, and I don't think it's unreasonable to ask people to run get_maintainers.pl to avoid this. In any case, I truly do think this series works better as RFC, I mean Liam has already voiced the kind of disagreements I share with it, and we need to rethink how to approach it in general. So if this is simply sent as RFC with the correct cc's (and ideally with some review feedback applied - a better cover letter, etc.) then it makes everything easier. As mentioned the timing is unfortunate here, this is a series we really want to make sure is properly reviewed before any chance of merge so again this points to RFC being the way forward.