From: <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] Cache coherency management subsystem
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 11:36:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <68700824a2161_1d3d100f4@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250710105913.GB542000@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 10:32:16PM -0700, dan.j.williams@intel.com wrote:
>
> > Theoretically there could be a threshold at which a CLFLUSHOPT loop is a
> > better option, but I would rather it be the case* that software CXL
> > cache management is stop-gap for early generation CXL platforms.
>
> So isn't the problem that CLFLUSH and friends take a linear address
> rather than a physical address? I suppose we can use our 1:1 mapping in
> this case, is all of CXL in the 1:1 map?
Currently CXL on the unplug path does:
arch_remove_memory() /* drop direct map */
cxl_region_invalidate_memregion() /* wbinvd_on_all_cpus() */
cxl_region_decode_reset() /* physically unmap memory */
...and on the plug path:
cxl_region_decode_commit() /* physically map memory */.
cxl_region_invalidate_memregion() /* wbinvd_on_all_cpus() */
arch_add_memory() /* setup direct map */
Moving this to virtual address based flushing would need some callbacks
from the memory_hotplug code to run flushes for memory spaces that are
being physically reconfigured.
...unplug:
arch_remove_memory()
clwb_on_all_cpus_before_unmap()
cxl_region_decode_reset()
...plug:
cxl_region_decode_commit()
arch_add_memory()
clflushopt_on_all_cpus_before_use()
However, this raises a question in my mind. Should not all memory
hotplug drivers in the kernel be doing cache management when the
physical contents of a memory range may have changed behind a CPUs back?
Unless I am missing something it looks like the ACPI memory hotplug
driver, for example, has never considered that an unplug/replug event
may leave stale data in the CPU cache.
I note drm_clflush_pages() is existing infrastructure and perhaps CXL
should uplevel/unify on that common helper?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-10 18:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-24 15:47 Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:47 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] memregion: Support fine grained invalidate by cpu_cache_invalidate_memregion() Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-09 19:46 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-07-09 22:31 ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-11 11:54 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:47 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] generic: Support ARCH_HAS_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 16:16 ` Greg KH
2025-06-25 16:46 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-10 5:57 ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10 6:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-11 11:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-11 11:52 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-07 16:07 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:47 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] cache: coherency core registration and instance handling Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] MAINTAINERS: Add Jonathan Cameron to drivers/cache Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] arm64: Select GENERIC_CPU_CACHE_INVALIDATE_MEMREGION Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-25 16:21 ` kernel test robot
2025-06-28 7:10 ` kernel test robot
2025-06-24 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] cache: Support cache maintenance for HiSilicon SoC Hydra Home Agent Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 17:18 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-24 15:48 ` [RFC v2 7/8] acpi: PoC of Cache control via ACPI0019 and _DSM Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] Hack: Pretend we have PSCI 1.2 Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-25 8:52 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Cache coherency management subsystem Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 9:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-25 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 17:03 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-26 9:55 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-10 5:32 ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10 10:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 18:36 ` dan.j.williams [this message]
2025-07-10 5:22 ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10 5:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-10 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 18:45 ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10 18:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-10 19:11 ` dan.j.williams
2025-07-10 19:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-07-09 19:53 ` Davidlohr Bueso
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