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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Georgi Nikolov <gnikolov@icdsoft.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Bug 200651] New: cgroups iptables-restor: vmalloc: allocation failure
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:38:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6838c342-2d07-3047-e723-2b641bc6bf79@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56597af4-73c6-b549-c5d5-b3a2e6441b8e@icdsoft.com>

On 07/30/2018 08:51 PM, Georgi Nikolov wrote:
> On 07/30/2018 09:38 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> On Mon 30-07-18 18:54:24, Georgi Nikolov wrote:
>> [...]
>>> No i was wrong. The regression starts actually with 0537250fdc6c8.
>>> - old code, which opencodes kvmalloc, is masking error but error is there
>>> - kvmalloc without GFP_NORETRY works fine, but probably can consume a
>>> lot of memory - commit: eacd86ca3b036
>>> - kvmalloc with GFP_NORETRY shows error - commit: 0537250fdc6c8
>> OK.
>>
>>>>> What is correct way to fix it.
>>>>> - inside xt_alloc_table_info remove GFP_NORETRY from kvmalloc or add
>>>>> this flag only for sizes bigger than some threshold
>>>> This would reintroduce issue fixed by 0537250fdc6c8. Note that
>>>> kvmalloc(GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_NORETRY) is more or less equivalent to the
>>>> original code (well, except for __GFP_NOWARN).
>>> So probably we should pass GFP_NORETRY only for large requests (above
>>> some threshold).
>> What would be the treshold? This is not really my area so I just wanted
>> to keep the original code semantic.
>>  
>>>>> - inside kvmalloc_node remove GFP_NORETRY from
>>>>> __vmalloc_node_flags_caller (i don't know if it honors this flag, or
>>>>> the problem is elsewhere)
>>>> No, not really. This is basically equivalent to kvmalloc(GFP_KERNEL).
>>>>
>>>> I strongly suspect that this is not a regression in this code but rather
>>>> a side effect of larger memory fragmentation caused by something else.
>>>> In any case do you see this failure also without artificial test case
>>>> with a standard workload?
>>> Yes i can see failures with standard workload, in fact it was hard to
>>> reproduce it.
>>> Here is the error from production servers where allocation is smaller:
>>> iptables: vmalloc: allocation failure, allocated 131072 of 225280 bytes,
>>> mode:0x14010c0(GFP_KERNEL|__GFP_NORETRY), nodemask=(null)
>>>
>>> I didn't understand if vmalloc honors GFP_NORETRY.
>> 0537250fdc6c8 changelog tries to explain. kvmalloc doesn't really
>> support the GFP_NORETRY remantic because that would imply the request
>> wouldn't trigger the oom killer but in rare cases this might happen
>> (e.g. when page tables are allocated because those are hardcoded GFP_KERNEL).
>>
>> That being said, I have no objection to use GFP_KERNEL if it helps real
>> workloads but we probably need some cap...
> 
> Probably Vlastimil Babka can propose some limit:

No, I think that's rather for the netfilter folks to decide. However, it
seems there has been the debate already [1] and it was not found. The
conclusion was that __GFP_NORETRY worked fine before, so it should work
again after it's added back. But now we know that it doesn't...

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20180130140104.GE21609@dhcp22.suse.cz/T/#u

> On Thu 26-07-18 09:18:57, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> This is likely the kvmalloc() in xt_alloc_table_info(). Between 4.13 and
> 4.17 it shouldn't use __GFP_NORETRY, but looks like commit 0537250fdc6c
> ("netfilter: x_tables: make allocation less aggressive") was backported
> to 4.14. Removing __GFP_NORETRY might help here, but bring back other
> issues. Less than 4MB is not that much though, maybe find some "sane"
> limit and use __GFP_NORETRY only above that?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Georgi Nikolov
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-31  6:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-200651-27@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2018-07-25 19:52 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-26  7:18   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26  7:26     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-26  7:34       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26  7:42         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-26  7:50           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26  8:03             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-26  8:31               ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26  8:48                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26  9:02                   ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-07-30 13:37                     ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-07-30 13:57                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 15:54                         ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-07-30 18:38                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 18:51                             ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-07-31  6:38                               ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2018-07-31 13:55                                 ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-07-31 14:05                                   ` Florian Westphal
2018-07-31 14:25                                     ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-08-01  7:17                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-01  7:34                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-01  8:33                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-01 16:03                                         ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-08-02  8:50                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-02  9:25                                             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-08-02 10:44                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-06  8:42                                             ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-08-07 11:02                                               ` Georgi Nikolov
2018-08-07 11:09                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-07 11:19                                                   ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-07 11:26                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-07 11:30                                                       ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-07 11:38                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-07 11:31                                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-07 13:35                                                         ` Mike Rapoport
2018-08-07 11:29                                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-07 11:37                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-07 18:23                                             ` Florian Westphal
2018-08-07 19:30                                               ` Michal Hocko

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