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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Buffered I/O broken on s390x with page faults disabled (gfs2)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 18:47:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6614d129-7635-5908-bab4-bb1f121e1742@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wh1WJ-s9Gj15yFciq6TOd9OOsE7H=R7rRskdRP6npDktQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 08.03.22 18:26, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:21 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> As raised offline already, I suspect
>>
>> shrink_active_list()
>> ->page_referenced()
>>  ->page_referenced_one()
>>   ->ptep_clear_flush_young_notify()
>>    ->ptep_clear_flush_young()
>>
>> which results on s390x in:
>>
>> static inline pte_t pte_mkold(pte_t pte)
>> {
>>         pte_val(pte) &= ~_PAGE_YOUNG;
>>         pte_val(pte) |= _PAGE_INVALID;
>>         return pte;
>> }
> 
> Yeah, that looks likely.
> 
> It looks to me like GUP just doesn't care about _PAGE_INVALID on s390,
> and happily looks up that page despite it not being "present" as far
> as hardware is concerned.
> 
> Your actual patch looks pretty nasty, though. We avoid marking it
> accessed on purpose (to avoid atomicity issues wrt hw-dirty bits etc),
> but still, that patch makes me go "there has to be a better way".

It certainly only works if we don't have hw dirty bits that might get
set concurrently -- for example, on s390x there is no such requirement.

As raised by Gerald, arch_faults_for_dirty_pte (and existing
arch_faults_on_old_pte) might be one option to get rid of the s390x
special-casing, and detect any arch that might update the dirty bit
concurrently.

Interestingly, mm/huge_memory.c:touch_pmd() doesn't seem to care about
concurrent dirty-bit updates by the hardware. Hmm.

But, of course, I'm open for alternatives, maybe we could adjust
fault_in_safe_writeable() to not use GUP as raised by you in the other
reply.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-08 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-07 22:52 Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-07 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-08  8:21   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08  8:37     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 12:11       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 12:24         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 13:20           ` Gerald Schaefer
2022-03-08 13:32             ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 14:14               ` Gerald Schaefer
2022-03-08 17:23           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-08 17:26     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-08 17:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-08 19:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-08 20:03           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-08 23:24             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-09  0:22               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-09 18:42                 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-09 19:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-09 20:57                     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-09 21:08                     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-10 12:13                       ` Filipe Manana
2022-03-09 19:21                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-09 19:35                     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-09 20:18                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-09 20:36                         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-09 20:48                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-09 20:54                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-10 17:13           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-10 18:00             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-10 18:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-10 18:38               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-10 18:47               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-10 19:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-10 19:56                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-10 20:23                     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2022-03-08 17:47       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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