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From: "Paul Menage" <menage@google.com>
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Sudhir Kumar <skumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	taka@valinux.co.jp, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][-mm] Memory controller add mm->owner
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:46:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6599ad830803241046l61e2965t52fd28e165d5df7a@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47E7E5D0.9020904@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Balbir Singh
<balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>  > OK, so we don't need to handle this for NPTL apps - but for anything
>  > still using LinuxThreads or manually constructed clone() calls that
>  > use CLONE_VM without CLONE_PID, this could still be an issue.
>
>  CLONE_PID?? Do you mean CLONE_THREAD?

Yes, sorry - CLONE_THREAD.

>
>  For the case you mentioned, mm->owner is a moving target and we don't want to
>  spend time finding the successor, that can be expensive when threads start
>  exiting one-by-one quickly and when the number of threads are high. I wonder if
>  there is an efficient way to find mm->owner in that case.
>

But:

- running a high-threadcount LinuxThreads process is by definition
inefficient and expensive (hence the move to NPTL)

- any potential performance hit is only paid at exit time

- in the normal case, any of your children or one of your siblings
will be a suitable alternate owner

- in the worst case, it's not going to be worse than doing a
for_each_thread() loop

so I don't think this would be a major problem

Paul

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-24 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-24 14:01 Balbir Singh
2008-03-24 15:03 ` Paul Menage
2008-03-24 16:21   ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-24 16:34     ` Paul Menage
2008-03-24 17:33       ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-24 17:46         ` Paul Menage [this message]
2008-03-25 11:41           ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-26 10:29             ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-26 11:20               ` Paul Menage
2008-03-26 11:41                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-26 15:21                   ` Paul Menage
2008-03-25  1:26 ` Li Zefan
2008-03-25 15:48   ` Balbir Singh

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