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From: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Sebastiaan Meijer <meijersebastiaan@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, buddy.lumpkin@oracle.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mgorman@suse.de,  willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] vmscan: Support multiple kswapd threads per node
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:53:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <656725362af9bd757a281f0799a0bb9c9b2487bd.camel@surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201002070333.GA21871@dhcp22.suse.cz>

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On Fri, 2020-10-02 at 09:03 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 01-10-20 18:18:10, Sebastiaan Meijer wrote:
> > (Apologies for messing up the mailing list thread, Gmail had fooled
> > me into
> > believing that it properly picked up the thread)
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 14:30, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed 30-09-20 21:27:12, Sebastiaan Meijer wrote:
> > > > > yes it shows the bottleneck but it is quite artificial. Read
> > > > > data is
> > > > > usually processed and/or written back and that changes the
> > > > > picture a
> > > > > lot.
> > > > Apologies for reviving an ancient thread (and apologies in
> > > > advance for my lack
> > > > of knowledge on how mailing lists work), but I'd like to offer
> > > > up another
> > > > reason why merging this might be a good idea.
> > > > 
> > > > From what I understand, zswap runs its compression on the same
> > > > kswapd thread,
> > > > limiting it to a single thread for compression. Given enough
> > > > processing power,
> > > > zswap can get great throughput using heavier compression
> > > > algorithms like zstd,
> > > > but this is currently greatly limited by the lack of threading.
> > > 
> > > Isn't this a problem of the zswap implementation rather than
> > > general
> > > kswapd reclaim? Why zswap doesn't do the same as normal swap out
> > > in a
> > > context outside of the reclaim?

On systems with lots of very fast IO devices, we have
also seen kswapd take 100% CPU time without any zswap
in use.

This seems like a generic issue, though zswap does
manage to bring it out on lower end systems.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-02 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-30 19:27 Sebastiaan Meijer
2020-10-01 12:30 ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-01 16:18   ` Sebastiaan Meijer
2020-10-02  7:03     ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-02  8:40       ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-02 13:53       ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2020-10-02 14:00         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-02 14:29         ` Michal Hocko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-04-02  9:24 [RFC PATCH 0/1] mm: " Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-02  9:24 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] vmscan: " Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-03 13:31   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-03 19:07     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-03 20:49       ` Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-03 21:12         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-04 10:07           ` Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-05  4:08           ` Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-11  6:37           ` Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-11  3:52       ` Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-03 19:41     ` Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-12 13:16       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-17  3:02         ` Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-17  9:03           ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-03 20:13     ` Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-11  3:10     ` Buddy Lumpkin
2018-04-12 13:23       ` Michal Hocko

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