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[174.109.172.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l1sm2239686qti.94.2021.09.17.16.35.21 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <654f9679-8734-3830-2e29-f531eb9aeb0a@toxicpanda.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 19:35:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.0.3 Subject: Re: Folio discussion recap Content-Language: en-US To: Theodore Ts'o , Kent Overstreet Cc: Johannes Weiner , Dave Chinner , "Darrick J. Wong" , Matthew Wilcox , Linus Torvalds , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Christoph Hellwig , David Howells References: <20210916025854.GE34899@magnolia> <20210917052440.GJ1756565@dread.disaster.area> From: Josef Bacik In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Server: rspam04 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9D64090000AE X-Stat-Signature: zn7dwx6beumtbg6qo9jgqox667ar149n Authentication-Results: imf28.hostedemail.com; dkim=pass header.d=toxicpanda-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Oc4fx4ee; spf=none (imf28.hostedemail.com: domain of josef@toxicpanda.com has no SPF policy when checking 209.85.222.181) smtp.mailfrom=josef@toxicpanda.com; dmarc=none X-HE-Tag: 1631921724-184938 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On 9/17/21 6:25 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 05:13:10PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: >> Also: it's become pretty clear to me that we have crappy >> communications between MM developers and filesystem >> developers. > > I think one of the challenges has been the lack of an LSF/MM since > 2019. And it may be that having *some* kind of ad hoc technical > discussion given that LSF/MM in 2021 is not happening might be a good > thing. I'm sure if we asked nicely, we could use the LPC > infrasutrcture to set up something, assuming we can find a mutually > agreeable day or dates. > We have a slot for this in the FS MC, first slot actually, so hopefully we can get things hashed out there. Thanks, Josef