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From: Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>
To: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>, <osalvador@suse.de>,
	<muchun.song@linux.dev>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<david@redhat.com>, <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	<wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] docs: hugetlbpage.rst: add free surplus huge pages description
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 09:56:09 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <64eaf1f9-1fab-8dda-ab75-5e48c0a8e0cb@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1bb5fadd-583c-4c56-b52f-37eee516c1dd@infradead.org>


在 2025/4/20 1:20, Randy Dunlap 写道:
>
> On 4/19/25 12:32 AM, Jinjiang Tu wrote:
>> When echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages is concurrent with freeing in-use
>> huge pages to the huge page pool, some free huge pages may fail to be
>> destroyed and accounted as surplus. The counts are like below:
>>
>>    HugePages_Total: 1024
>>    HugePages_Free: 1024
>>    HugePages_Surp: 1024
>>
>> When set_max_huge_pages() decrease the pool size, it first return free
>> pages to the buddy allocator, and then account other pages as surplus.
>> Between the two steps, the hugetlb_lock is released to free memory and
>> require the hugetlb_lock again. If another process free huge pages to the
>> pool between the two steps, these free huge pages will be accounted as
>> surplus.
>>
>> Besides, Free surplus huge pages come from failing to restore vmemmap.
>>
>> Once the two situation occurs, users couldn't directly shrink the huge
>> page pool via echo 0 > nr_hugepages, should use one of the two ways to
>> destroy these free surplus huge pages:
>>   1) echo $nr_surplus > nr_hugepages to convert the surplus free huge pages
>> to persistent free huge pages first, and then echo 0 > nr_hugepages to
>> destroy these huge pages.
>>   2) allocate these free surplus huge pages, and will try to destroy them
>> when freeing them.
>>
>> However, there is no documentation to describe it, users may be confused
>> and don't know how to handle in such case. So update the documention.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>
>> ---
>>   Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst | 11 +++++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst
>> index 67a941903fd2..0456cefae039 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.rst
>> @@ -239,6 +239,17 @@ this condition holds--that is, until ``nr_hugepages+nr_overcommit_hugepages`` is
>>   increased sufficiently, or the surplus huge pages go out of use and are freed--
>>   no more surplus huge pages will be allowed to be allocated.
>>   
>> +Caveat: Shrinking the persistent huge page pool via ``nr_hugepages`` may be
>> +concurrent with freeing in-use huge pages to the huge page pool, leading to some
>> +huge pages are still in the huge page pool and accounted as surplus. Besides,
>> +When the feature of freeing unused vmemmap pages associated with each hugetlb page
>     when
>
>> +is enabled, free huge page may be accounted as surplus too. In such two cases, users
>> +couldn't directly shrink the huge page pool via echo 0 to ``nr_hugepages``, should
>                                                                                 but should
>
>
> Also, please limit each line to <80 characters.
>
>> +echo $nr_surplus to ``nr_hugepages`` to convert the surplus free huge pages to
>> +persistent free huge pages first, and then echo 0 to ``nr_hugepages`` to destroy
>> +these huge pages. Another way to destroy is allocating these free surplus huge
>> +pages and these huge pages will be tried to destroy when they are freed.
>> +
> But I don't see why this is a user problem to be solved by users...

echo xx > nr_hugepages isn't a atomic operation against huge pages allocation/free, we can't
guarantee all huge pages will be destroyed after this operation. So users have to check if
huge pages are successfully destroyed.

>
>>   With support for multiple huge page pools at run-time available, much of
>>   the huge page userspace interface in ``/proc/sys/vm`` has been duplicated in
>>   sysfs.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-21  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-19  7:32 Jinjiang Tu
2025-04-19 17:20 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-04-21  1:56   ` Jinjiang Tu [this message]
2025-04-22 13:02 ` Jinjiang Tu

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