From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
Rakie Kim <rakie.kim@sk.com>, Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
Ying Huang <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 3/4] mm: split folio_pte_batch() into folio_pte_batch() and folio_pte_batch_ext()
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:54:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6466a90a-6af0-4dc5-bbb6-19ec6d2f5c8c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9f8b010-3c80-4d02-99df-30171878c799@lucifer.local>
On 30.06.25 12:41, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 11:19:13AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 27.06.25 20:48, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 01:55:09PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> Many users (including upcoming ones) don't really need the flags etc,
>>>> and can live with a function call.
>>>>
>>>> So let's provide a basic, non-inlined folio_pte_batch().
>>>
>>> Hm, but why non-inlined, when it invokes an inlined function? Seems odd no?
>>
>> We want to always generate a function that uses as little runtime checks as
>> possible. Essentially, optimize out the "flags" as much as possible.
>>
>> In case of folio_pte_batch(), where we won't use any flags, any checks will
>> be optimized out by the compiler.
>>
>> So we get a single, specialized, non-inlined function.
>
> I mean I suppose code bloat is a thing too. Would the compiler not also optimise
> out checks if it were inlined though?
The compiler will optimize all (most) inlined variants, yes.
But we will end up creating the same optimized variant for each
folio_pte_batch() user before this change.
And as Andrew put it
"And why the heck is folio_pte_batch() inlined? It's larger then my
first hard disk" [1]
I should probably add a suggested-by + link to that discussion.
[1]
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250503182858.5a02729fcffd6d4723afcfc2@linux-foundation.org/
[...]
>>
>> Obviously, I had that as part of the development, and decided against it at
>> some point. :)
>>
>> Yeah, _ext() is not common in MM yet, in contrast to other subsystems. The
>> only user is indeed page_ext. On arm we seem to have set_pte_ext(). But it's
>> really "page_ext", that's the problematic part, not "_ext" :P
>>
>> No strong opinion, but I tend to dislike here "__", because often it means
>> "internal helper you're not supposed to used", which isn't really the case
>> here.
>
> Yeah, and of course we break this convention all over the place :)
>
> Maybe folio_pte_batch_flags()?
Works for me as well.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-30 10:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-27 11:55 [PATCH v1 0/4] mm: folio_pte_batch() improvements David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 11:55 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] mm: convert FPB_IGNORE_* into FPB_HONOR_* David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 13:40 ` Lance Yang
2025-06-27 16:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-27 16:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 16:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-29 8:59 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-30 13:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-28 3:37 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-28 21:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-30 3:34 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-30 9:04 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-30 9:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-30 9:18 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-30 9:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-30 10:57 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-30 11:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-30 14:35 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-02 8:31 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-27 11:55 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] mm: smaller folio_pte_batch() improvements David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 13:58 ` Lance Yang
2025-06-27 16:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-27 17:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 18:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-30 17:40 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-02 8:42 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-02 8:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-02 8:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-02 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-02 9:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-02 9:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 11:55 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] mm: split folio_pte_batch() into folio_pte_batch() and folio_pte_batch_ext() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 14:19 ` Lance Yang
2025-06-27 15:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 15:45 ` Lance Yang
2025-06-27 18:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-30 9:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-30 10:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-30 10:54 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-30 17:45 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-02 9:02 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-02 9:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-02 9:07 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-07-02 9:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-02 9:09 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-06-27 11:55 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] mm: remove boolean output parameters from folio_pte_batch_ext() David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 14:34 ` Lance Yang
2025-06-27 15:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 15:40 ` Lance Yang
2025-06-27 19:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-30 9:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-30 11:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-30 11:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-30 11:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-30 11:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-30 17:59 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-02 9:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-02 9:09 ` David Hildenbrand
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