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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ruan Shiyang <ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lkp@intel.com,
	ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com, y-goto@fujitsu.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	Li Zhijian <lizhijian@fujitsu.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm: memory-tiering: fix PGPROMOTE_CANDIDATE counting
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 22:34:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63a6962f-6ffb-47cd-806d-ec568f0b2df7@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250901125917.e9792e5d0df12ba1c552c537@linux-foundation.org>

On 9/1/25 21:59, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon,  1 Sep 2025 17:01:22 +0800 Ruan Shiyang <ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com> wrote:
> 
>> Goto-san reported confusing pgpromote statistics where the
>> pgpromote_success count significantly exceeded pgpromote_candidate.
>> 
>> On a system with three nodes (nodes 0-1: DRAM 4GB, node 2: NVDIMM 4GB):
>>  # Enable demotion only
>>  echo 1 > /sys/kernel/mm/numa/demotion_enabled
>>  numactl -m 0-1 memhog -r200 3500M >/dev/null &
>>  pid=$!
>>  sleep 2
>>  numactl memhog -r100 2500M >/dev/null &
>>  sleep 10
>>  kill -9 $pid # terminate the 1st memhog
>>  # Enable promotion
>>  echo 2 > /proc/sys/kernel/numa_balancing
>> 
>> After a few seconds, we observeed `pgpromote_candidate < pgpromote_success`
>> $ grep -e pgpromote /proc/vmstat
>> pgpromote_success 2579
>> pgpromote_candidate 0
>> 
>> In this scenario, after terminating the first memhog, the conditions for
>> pgdat_free_space_enough() are quickly met, and triggers promotion.
>> However, these migrated pages are only counted for in PGPROMOTE_SUCCESS,
>> not in PGPROMOTE_CANDIDATE.
>> 
>> To solve these confusing statistics, introduce PGPROMOTE_CANDIDATE_NRL to
>> count the missed promotion pages.  And also, not counting these pages into
>> PGPROMOTE_CANDIDATE is to avoid changing the existing algorithm or
>> performance of the promotion rate limit.
>> 
>> ...
>>
> 
> It would be good to have a Fixes: here, to tell people how far back to
> backport it.
> 
> Could be either c6833e10008f or c959924b0dc5 afaict.  I'll go with
> c6833e10008f, OK?

LGTM as a helpful pointer, but I don't think Cc: stable is necessary for
"admin might be confused" kind of thing if that's there since 6.1 and only
came up now.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-01 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-29  3:51 [PATCH v1] mm: memory-tiering: Fix " Ruan Shiyang
2025-07-30  1:28 ` Huang, Ying
2025-08-29  9:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-29  9:18   ` Shiyang Ruan
2025-08-29  9:33     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-30  7:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-01  2:05 ` [PATCH v2] mm: memory-tiering: fix " Ruan Shiyang
2025-09-01  8:04   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-01  9:01 ` [PATCH v3] " Ruan Shiyang
2025-09-01 11:09   ` Huang, Ying
2025-09-01 19:59   ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-01 20:34     ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-09-01 21:00       ` Andrew Morton

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