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From: Yin Tirui <yintirui@huawei.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] mm: add PMD-level huge page support for remap_pfn_range()
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 10:17:31 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <620d202a-6078-4b5d-a42a-8a52543bc14a@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aNMhiZ4FiEE1Rk_T@casper.infradead.org>



On 9/24/2025 6:39 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 09:31:04PM +0800, Yin Tirui wrote:
>> +			entry = pte_clrhuge(pfn_pte(pmd_pfn(old_pmd), pmd_pgprot(old_pmd)));
> 
> This doesn't make sense.  And I'm not saying you got this wrong; I
> suspect in terms of how things work today it's actually necessary.
> But the way we handle this stuff is so insane.

Thank you for pointing this out and the broader context.

> 
> pte_clrhuge() should not exist.  If we have a PTE, it can't have the
> huge bit set, by definition (don't anybody mention hugetlbfs because
> that is an entirely separate pile of broken horrors).  I understand what
> you're trying to do here.  You want to construct a PTE that points to
> the same address as the first page of the PMD and has the same
> permissions.  But that *should* be written as:
> 
> 	entry = pfn_pte(pmd_pfn(old_pmd), pmd_pgprot(old_pmd)));
> 
> right?  Now, pmd_pgprot() might or might not want to return the huge bit
> set.  I'm not sure.  Perhaps you could have a look through and figure it

I've tested this on arm64, and pmd_pgprot() does return the huge bit 
set, which is exactly why I added pte_clrhuge().

> out.  But pfn_pte() should never return a PTE with the huge bit set.
> So if it is set in the pgorot on entry, it should filter it out.
> 
> There are going to be consequences to this.  Maybe there's code
> somewhere that relies on pfn_pte() returning a PTE with the huge bit
> set.  Perhaps it's hugetlbfs.

I'll try to refactor pfn_pte() and related functions to filter out the 
huge bit set and test its impact on hugetlbfs.

> 
> But we have to start cleaning this garbage up.  I did some work with
> e3981db444a0 and the commits leading up to that.  See
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20250402181709.2386022-12-willy@infradead.org
> 
> I'd like pte_clrhuge() to be deleted from x86, not added to arm and
> riscv.
> 
I completely agree with the goal of deleting pte_clrhuge() rather than 
expanding it. I'll study your referenced work and align my approach with 
your efforts.

Would you recommend I address the pfn_pte() and related function 
refactoring as part of this patch series, or should I submit it as a 
separate patch series?

-- 
Best regards,
Yin Tirui



  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-25  2:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-23 13:31 [PATCH RFC 0/2] mm: add huge pfnmap " Yin Tirui
2025-09-23 13:31 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] pgtable: add pte_clrhuge() implementation for arm64 and riscv Yin Tirui
2025-09-23 13:31 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] mm: add PMD-level huge page support for remap_pfn_range() Yin Tirui
2025-09-23 22:39   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-25  2:17     ` Yin Tirui [this message]
2025-09-24  9:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-25  1:43     ` Yin Tirui
2025-09-25  9:38       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-23 22:53 ` [syzbot ci] Re: mm: add huge pfnmap " syzbot ci
2025-10-16 11:27 [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] " Yin Tirui
2025-10-16 11:27 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] mm: add PMD-level huge page " Yin Tirui

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