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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>, Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/45] hugetlb pagewalk unification
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 12:44:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <617169bc-e18c-40fa-be3a-99c118a6d7fe@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240704043132.28501-1-osalvador@suse.de>

On 04.07.24 06:30, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> During Peter's talk at the LSFMM, it was agreed that one of the things
> that need to be done in order to further integrate hugetlb into mm core,
> is to unify generic and hugetlb pagewalkers.
> I started with this one, which is unifying hugetlb into generic
> pagewalk, instead of having its hugetlb_entry entries.
> Which means that pmd_entry/pte_entry(for cont-pte) entries will also deal with
> hugetlb vmas as well, and so will new pud_entry entries since hugetlb can be
> pud mapped (devm pages as well but we seem not to care about those with
> the exception of hmm code).
> 
> The outcome is this RFC.

First of all, a good step into the right direction, but maybe not what 
we want long-term. So I'm questioning whether we want this intermediate 
approach. walk_page_range() and friends are simply not a good design 
(e.g., indirect function calls).


There are roughly two categories of page table walkers we have:

1) We actually only want to walk present folios (to be precise, page
    ranges of folios). We should look into moving away from the walk the
    page walker API where possible, and have something better that
    directly gives us the folio (page ranges). Any PTE batching would be
    done internally.

2) We want to deal with non-present folios as well (swp entries and all
    kinds of other stuff). We should maybe implement our custom page
    table walker and move away from walk_page_range(). We are not walking
    "pages" after all but everything else included :)

Then, there is a subset of 1) where we only want to walk to a single 
address (a single folio). I'm working on that right now to get rid of 
follow_page() and some (IIRC 3: KSM an daemon) walk_page_range() users. 
Hugetlb will still remain a bit special, but I'm afraid we cannot hide 
that completely.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-04 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-04  4:30 Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 01/45] arch/x86: Drop own definition of pgd,p4d_leaf Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 02/45] mm: Add {pmd,pud}_huge_lock helper Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 15:02   ` Peter Xu
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 03/45] mm/pagewalk: Move vma_pgtable_walk_begin and vma_pgtable_walk_end upfront Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 04/45] mm/pagewalk: Only call pud_entry when we have a pud leaf Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 05/45] mm/pagewalk: Enable walk_pmd_range to handle cont-pmds Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 15:41   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-05 16:56   ` kernel test robot
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 06/45] mm/pagewalk: Do not try to split non-thp pud or pmd leafs Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 07/45] arch/s390: Enable __s390_enable_skey_pmd to handle hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 08/45] fs/proc: Enable smaps_pmd_entry to handle PMD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 09/45] mm: Implement pud-version functions for swap and vm_normal_page_pud Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 10/45] fs/proc: Create smaps_pud_range to handle PUD-mapped hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 11/45] fs/proc: Enable smaps_pte_entry to handle cont-pte mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 10:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04  4:30 ` [PATCH 12/45] fs/proc: Enable pagemap_pmd_range to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 13/45] mm: Implement pud-version uffd functions Oscar Salvador
2024-07-05 15:48   ` kernel test robot
2024-07-05 15:48   ` kernel test robot
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 14/45] fs/proc: Create pagemap_pud_range to handle PUD-mapped hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 15/45] fs/proc: Adjust pte_to_pagemap_entry for " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 16/45] fs/proc: Enable pagemap_scan_pmd_entry to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 17/45] mm: Implement pud-version for pud_mkinvalid and pudp_establish Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 18/45] fs/proc: Create pagemap_scan_pud_entry to handle PUD-mapped hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 19/45] fs/proc: Enable gather_pte_stats to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 20/45] fs/proc: Enable gather_pte_stats to handle cont-pte mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 21/45] fs/proc: Create gather_pud_stats to handle PUD-mapped hugetlb pages Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 22/45] mm/mempolicy: Enable queue_folios_pmd to handle hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 23/45] mm/mempolicy: Create queue_folios_pud to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 24/45] mm/memory_failure: Enable check_hwpoisoned_pmd_entry to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 25/45] mm/memory-failure: Create check_hwpoisoned_pud_entry to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 26/45] mm/damon: Enable damon_young_pmd_entry to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 27/45] mm/damon: Create damon_young_pud_entry to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 28/45] mm/damon: Enable damon_mkold_pmd_entry to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 11:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 29/45] mm/damon: Create damon_mkold_pud_entry to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 30/45] mm,mincore: Enable mincore_pte_range to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 31/45] mm/mincore: Create mincore_pud_range to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 32/45] mm/hmm: Enable hmm_vma_walk_pmd, to handle " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 33/45] mm/hmm: Enable hmm_vma_walk_pud to handle PUD-mapped " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 34/45] arch/powerpc: Skip hugetlb vmas in subpage_mark_vma_nohuge Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 35/45] arch/s390: Skip hugetlb vmas in thp_split_mm Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 36/45] fs/proc: Make clear_refs_test_walk skip hugetlb vmas Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 37/45] mm/lock: Make mlock_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 38/45] mm/madvise: Make swapin_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 39/45] mm/madvise: Make madvise_cold_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 40/45] mm/madvise: Make madvise_free_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 41/45] mm/migrate_device: Make migrate_vma_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 42/45] mm/memcontrol: Make mem_cgroup_move_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 43/45] mm/memcontrol: Make mem_cgroup_count_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 44/45] mm/hugetlb_vmemmap: Make vmemmap_test_walk " Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 45/45] mm: Delete all hugetlb_entry entries Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 10:13 ` [PATCH 00/45] hugetlb pagewalk unification Oscar Salvador
2024-07-04 10:44 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-07-04 14:30   ` Peter Xu
2024-07-04 15:23     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-04 16:43       ` Peter Xu
2024-07-08  8:18       ` Oscar Salvador
2024-07-08 14:28         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-10  3:52         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-10 11:26           ` Oscar Salvador
2024-07-11  0:15             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11  4:48               ` Oscar Salvador
2024-07-11  4:53                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-08 14:35     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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