linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 10/10] mm/vma: add and use vma_assert_stabilised()
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 18:54:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60b1070c-5971-43ff-ab8a-fb4854fcb8b2@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpEJ0NRB3vgZ2uajGcTRovKYTnrV6woSbFGWZ_LSFerkTA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 02:12:25PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 5:02 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
> <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sometimes we wish to assert that a VMA is stable, that is - the VMA cannot
> > be changed underneath us. This will be the case if EITHER the VMA lock or
> > the mmap lock is held.
> >
> > In order to do so, we introduce a new assert vma_assert_stablised() - this
>
> s/vma_assert_stablised/vma_assert_stabilised

Oops will fix.

>
> > will make a lockdep assert if lockdep is enabled AND the VMA is
> > read-locked.
> >
> > Currently lockdep tracking for VMA write locks is not implemented, so it
> > suffices to check in this case that we have either an mmap read or write
> > semaphore held.
> >
> > Note that because the VMA lock uses the non-standard vmlock_dep_map naming
> > convention, we cannot use lockdep_assert_is_write_held() so have to open
> > code this ourselves via lockdep-asserting that
> > lock_is_held_type(&vma->vmlock_dep_map, 0).
> >
> > We have to be careful here - for instance when merging a VMA, we use the
> > mmap write lock to stabilise the examination of adjacent VMAs which might
> > be simultaneously VMA read-locked whilst being faulted in.
> >
> > If we were to assert VMA read lock using lockdep we would encounter an
> > incorrect lockdep assert.
> >
> > Also, we have to be careful about asserting mmap locks are held - if we try
> > to address the above issue by first checking whether mmap lock is held and
> > if so asserting it via lockdep, we may find that we were raced by another
> > thread acquiring an mmap read lock simultaneously that either we don't
> > own (and thus can be released any time - so we are not stable) or was
> > indeed released since we last checked.
> >
> > So to deal with these complexities we end up with either a precise (if
> > lockdep is enabled) or imprecise (if not) approach - in the first instance
> > we assert the lock is held using lockdep and thus whether we own it.
> >
> > If we do own it, then the check is complete, otherwise we must check for
> > the VMA read lock being held (VMA write lock implies mmap write lock so the
> > mmap lock suffices for this).
> >
> > If lockdep is not enabled we simply check if the mmap lock is held and risk
> > a false negative (i.e. not asserting when we should do).
> >
> > There are a couple places in the kernel where we already do this
> > stabliisation check - the anon_vma_name() helper in mm/madvise.c and
> > vma_flag_set_atomic() in include/linux/mm.h, which we update to use
> > vma_assert_stabilised().
> >
> > This change abstracts these into vma_assert_stabilised(), uses lockdep if
> > possible, and avoids a duplicate check of whether the mmap lock is held.
> >
> > This is also self-documenting and lays the foundations for further VMA
> > stability checks in the code.
>
> So, is the lockdep addition the only functional change here?

Yurp. Wil add to commit msg.

>
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
>
> Reviewed-by: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>

Thanks :)

And also thanks to you for the review in general! :)


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-23 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-22 13:01 [PATCH RESEND v3 00/10] mm: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() helper Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 01/10] mm/vma: rename VMA_LOCK_OFFSET to VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:26   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22 16:29     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 13:52       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:37   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 13:26     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 02/10] mm/vma: document possible vma->vm_refcnt values and reference comment Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:48   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22 17:28     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 15:06       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 13:45     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 03/10] mm/vma: rename is_vma_write_only(), separate out shared refcount put Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 17:36   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22 19:31     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23  8:24       ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 14:52         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 15:05           ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:07             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 14:41       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 10:04         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 14:02     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 04/10] mm/vma: add+use vma lockdep acquire/release defines Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 19:32   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-22 19:41     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23  8:41       ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:08         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 15:00     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23  8:48   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:10     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 05/10] mm/vma: de-duplicate __vma_enter_locked() error path Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 19:39   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 15:11     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23  8:54   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 15:10     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] mm/vma: clean up __vma_enter/exit_locked() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:08   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 20:15   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-22 20:55     ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-23 16:15       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 16:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23  9:16   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 16:17     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 16:28       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:01 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 07/10] mm/vma: introduce helper struct + thread through exclusive lock fns Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 21:41   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 17:59     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 19:34       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 20:04         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 22:07           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-24  8:54             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26  6:09               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 10:02   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:18     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:02 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 08/10] mm/vma: improve and document __is_vma_write_locked() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 21:55   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 16:21     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 17:42       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 18:44       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:02 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 09/10] mm/vma: update vma_assert_locked() to use lockdep Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 22:02   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 18:45     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 16:55   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:49     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 13:02 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 10/10] mm/vma: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 22:12   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 18:54     ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-01-23 17:10   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:51     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 23:35   ` Hillf Danton
2026-01-22 15:48 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 00/10] mm: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() helper Andrew Morton
2026-01-22 15:57   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-22 16:01     ` Lorenzo Stoakes

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=60b1070c-5971-43ff-ab8a-fb4854fcb8b2@lucifer.local \
    --to=lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com \
    --cc=Liam.Howlett@oracle.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=bigeasy@linutronix.de \
    --cc=boqun.feng@gmail.com \
    --cc=clrkwllms@kernel.org \
    --cc=david@kernel.org \
    --cc=jannh@google.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev \
    --cc=longman@redhat.com \
    --cc=mhocko@suse.com \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=rppt@kernel.org \
    --cc=shakeel.butt@linux.dev \
    --cc=surenb@google.com \
    --cc=vbabka@suse.cz \
    --cc=will@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox