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From: "Gupta, Pankaj" <pankaj.gupta@amd.com>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Virtual Machine Memory Passthrough
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 21:27:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6070e228-17f1-8495-470d-80dd38963266@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bACxoi0DsV=eJ_5t4PFbbHjDvHz1kBC9-tL0zsTP062Gg@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/22/2023 7:18 PM, Pasha Tatashin wrote:

Hi Pasha,

>> Coming from the virtio-pmem and some free page hinting background, I am
>> interested in this discussion. I saw your proposal about single owner
>> memory driver in other thread and could not entirely link the dots about
>> applicability of the idea with "reducing the memory footprint overhead
>> for virtual machines". Do we plan to co-ordinate guest memory state with
>> corresponding host state for efficient memory reclaim decisions?
>> Or something entirely different we are targeting here?
> 
> Hi Pankaj,
> 
> The plan is to have a driver /dev/memctl and corresponding VMM agent
> that synchronously passes information about how guest would like its
> memory to be backed on the host.
> 
> For example the following information can come from guest for a range
> of physical addresses:
> MADV_NOHUGEPAGE
> MADV_HUGEPAGE
> MADV_DONTNEED
> PR_SET_VMA_ANON_NAME
> etc.
> 
> All together this should help by doing memory management operations
> only on the host side, and reduce the number of operations that are
> performed on the guest.

o.k. That sounds like guest will have a *special* interface (paravirt?) 
for some of the memory management operations with the coordination of host.

Guest would still allow other regular memory operations? which would get
full-filled by the guest? Just wondering if this solution only be
useful for specific workloads which are aware of known MADV calls?
And might not do/require continuous allocation/deallocation of memory?

Thanks,
Pankaj
> 
> The /dev/som can help with allowing support for anonymous memory in
> the guest with 1G pages that are only partially backed on the host
> side, thus yielding to faster guestVA hostPA translations.
> 
> Pasha



  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-22 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-20 16:31 Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-20 23:51 ` Gavin Shan
2023-02-22 13:43   ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-22 15:31     ` Zi Yan
2023-02-22 15:43       ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-21  4:38 ` Zhu Yanjun
2023-02-22 13:44   ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-22 17:08 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2023-02-22 18:18   ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-22 20:27     ` Gupta, Pankaj [this message]
2023-02-22 20:56       ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-23  9:11         ` Gupta, Pankaj

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