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From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: memcg: slab control
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:01:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <604427e00911262301tac7f55avedd44263fbabccc2@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091126113209.5A68.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:35 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wanted to see what the current ideas are concerning kernel memory
>> accounting as it relates to the memory controller.  Eventually we'll want
>> the ability to restrict cgroups to a hard slab limit.  That'll require
>> accounting to map slab allocations back to user tasks so that we can
>> enforce a policy based on the cgroup's aggregated slab usage similiar to
>> how the memory controller currently does for user memory.
>>
>> Is this currently being thought about within the memcg community?  We'd
>> like to start a discussion and get everybody's requirements and interests
>> on the table and then become actively involved in the development of such
>> a feature.
>
> I don't think memory hard isolation is bad idea. however, slab restriction
> is too strange. some device use slab frequently, another someone use get_free_pages()
> directly. only slab restriction will not make expected result from admin view.
>
> Probably, we need to implement generic memory reservation framework. it mihgt help
> implemnt rt-task memory reservation and userland oom manager.
>
> It is only my personal opinion...

Looks like the beancounters implementation counts both the kernel slab
objects as well as the
pages from get_free_pages(). But It relies the caller to pass down a
GFP flag indicating the page
or slab to be accountable or not. I am looking at the beancounters v5 at:

http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0610.0/1719.html

I kind of like the idea to have a kernel memory controller instead of
kernel slab controller.
If we only count kernel slabs, do we need another mechanism to count
kernel allocations
directly from get_free_pages() ?

--Ying
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-27  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-25 23:08 David Rientjes
2009-11-26  1:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  8:50   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-26  8:56     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  9:10       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26  9:33         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  9:56           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 10:24             ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-26 12:31               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 12:52                 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-12-01  7:40                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-27  7:15                 ` Ying Han
2009-11-27  9:45                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01  5:14                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30 22:57                 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 10:31                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01 22:29                     ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01  7:36             ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-01 10:40               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01 15:14                 ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-02 10:14                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-02 10:19                     ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-02 10:51                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-30 22:55         ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 10:39           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 10:13     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-30  9:17       ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-30 22:45   ` David Rientjes
2009-11-26  1:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26 10:01   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-26  2:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-27  7:01   ` Ying Han [this message]
2009-11-27  9:48     ` Pavel Emelyanov

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