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From: Zizhi Wo <wozizhi@huaweicloud.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Zizhi Wo <wozizhi@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, jack@suse.com, brauner@kernel.org,
	hch@lst.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux@armlinux.org.uk,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	yangerkun@huawei.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	pangliyuan1@huawei.com, xieyuanbin1@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 10:03:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60238f31-d896-466b-b53f-604846738fa2@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251129033728.GH3538@ZenIV>



在 2025/11/29 11:37, Al Viro 写道:
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 10:24:19AM +0800, Zizhi Wo wrote:
> 
>> Why does x86 have special handling in do_kern_addr_fault(), including
>> logic for vmalloc faults? For example, on CONFIG_X86_32, it still takes
>> the vmalloc_fault path. As noted in the x86 comments, "We can fault-in
>> kernel-space virtual memory on-demand"...
>>
>> But on arm64, I don’t see similar logic — is there a specific reason
>> for this difference? Maybe x86's vmalloc area is mapped lazily, while
>> ARM maps it fully during early boot?
> 
> x86 MMU uses the same register for kernel and userland top-level page
> tables; arm64 MMU has separate page tables for those - TTBR0 and TTBR1
> point to the table to be used for translation, depending upon the bit
> 55 of virtual address.
> 
> vmalloc works with page table of init_mm (see pgd_offset_k() uses in
> there).  On arm64 that's it - TTBR1 is set to that and it stays that way,
> so access to vmalloc'ed area will do the right thing.
> 
> On 32bit x86 you need to propagate the change into top-level page tables
> of every thread.  That's what arch_sync_kernel_mappings() is for; look for
> the calls in mm/vmalloc.c and see the discussion of race in the comment in
> front of x86 vmalloc_fault().  Nothing of that sort is needed of arm64,
> since all threads are using the same page table for kernel part of the
> address space.
> 
> The reason why 64bit x86 doesn't need to bother is different - there we
> fill all relevant top-level page table slots in preallocate_vmalloc_pages()
> before any additional threads could be created.  The pointers in those
> slots are not going to change and they will be propagated to all subsequent
> threads by pgd_alloc(), so the page tables actually modified by vmalloc()
> are shared by all threads.

Thank you very much for your answer. This well explains my confusion!

Thanks,
Zizhi Wo

> 
> AFAICS, 32bit arm is similar to 32bit x86 in that respect; propagation
> is lazier, though - there arch_sync_kernel_mappings() bumps a counter
> in init_mm and context switches use that to check if propagation needs
> to be done.  No idea how well does that work on vfree() side of things -
> hadn't looked into that rabbit hole...
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-01  2:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-26  9:05 Zizhi Wo
2025-11-26 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH] vfs: Fix might sleep in load_unaligned_zeropad() with rcu read lock held Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-26 18:10   ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 18:48     ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 19:05       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 19:26         ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 19:51           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 20:02             ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 22:25               ` david laight
2025-11-26 23:51                 ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 23:31               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-27  3:03                 ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-27  7:20                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-27 11:20                     ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-28  1:39           ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-26 20:42   ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 10:27 ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Zizhi Wo
2025-11-26 21:12   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-27 10:27     ` Will Deacon
2025-11-27 10:57     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-28 17:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-29  1:01         ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  1:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-29  4:08             ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29  9:08               ` Al Viro
2025-11-29  9:25                 ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29  9:44                   ` Al Viro
2025-11-29 10:05                     ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29 10:45                 ` david laight
2025-11-29  8:54             ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:08             ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  2:18         ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-01 13:28         ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Will Deacon
2025-12-02 12:43         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-12-02 13:02           ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-02 22:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-12-03  1:48             ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-05 12:08               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 18:55 ` Al Viro
2025-11-27  2:24   ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  3:37     ` Al Viro
2025-11-30  3:01       ` [RFC][alpha] saner vmalloc handling (was Re: [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context) Al Viro
2025-11-30 11:32         ` david laight
2025-11-30 16:43           ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 18:14             ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-11-30 19:03             ` david laight
2025-11-30 20:31               ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 20:32                 ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 22:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-30 23:37           ` Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:03       ` Zizhi Wo [this message]
2025-11-27 12:59 ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Will Deacon
2025-11-28  1:17   ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28  1:18     ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28  1:39       ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28 12:25         ` Will Deacon
2025-11-29  1:02           ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  3:55             ` Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:38               ` Zizhi Wo

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