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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: uninitialized pmem struct pages
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 10:16:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5fa1ff35-71f3-2526-6819-34c1ee959295@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210105075028.GS13207@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 05.01.21 08:50, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 04-01-21 21:17:43, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:45 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> [...]
>>> I believe Dan mentioned somewhere that he wants to see a real instance
>>> of this producing a BUG before actually moving forward with a fix. I
>>> might be wrong.
>>
>> I think I'm missing an argument for the user-visible effects of the
>> "Bad." statements above. I think soft_offline_page() is a candidate
>> for a local fix because mm/memory-failure.c already has a significant
>> amount of page-type specific knowledge. So teaching it "yes" for
>> MEMORY_DEVICE_PRIVATE-ZONE_DEVICE and "no" for other ZONE_DEVICE seems
>> ok to me.
> 
> I believe we do not want to teach _every_ pfn walker about zone device
> pages. This would be quite error prone. Especially when a missig check
> could lead to a silently broken data or BUG_ON with debugging enabled
> (which is not the case for many production users). Or are we talking
> about different bugs here?

I'd like us to stick to the documentation, e.g., include/linux/mmzone.h


"
pfn_valid() is meant to be able to tell if a given PFN has valid memmap
associated with it or not. This means that a struct page exists for this
pfn. The caller cannot assume the page is fully initialized in general.
Hotplugable pages might not have been onlined yet. pfn_to_online_page()
will ensure the struct page is fully online and initialized. Special
pages (e.g. ZONE_DEVICE) are never onlined and should be treated
accordingly.
"

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-05  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-04 10:03 Michal Hocko
2021-01-04 10:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-04 14:26   ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-04 14:51     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-04 15:10       ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-04 15:15         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-04 15:33           ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-04 15:43             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-04 15:44               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-05  8:00                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-05  8:16                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-05  8:27                     ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  8:42                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-05  8:57                         ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  9:05                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-05  9:13                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-05  9:25                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-05  9:27                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-04 15:59               ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-04 16:30                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-05  7:44                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-05  9:56                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-05  5:33                 ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  7:40                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-05  5:17   ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  7:50     ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-05  9:16       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-01-05  9:25     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-05  9:33       ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  9:37         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-05  9:56           ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  9:58             ` David Hildenbrand

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