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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] arch: allow pte_offset_map[_lock]() to fail
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 15:37:06 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f1dd6f-1e75-8d98-3083-e1bd2163dcc6@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZFz1j1slZHCQmwMJ@casper.infradead.org>

On Thu, 11 May 2023, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> I was thinking that removing CONFIG_HIGHPTE might simplify the page
> fault handling path a little, but now I've looked at it some more, and
> I'm not sure there's any simplification to be had.  It should probably
> use kmap_local instead of kmap_atomic(), though.

Re kmap_local, yes, one of the patches in the next series does make
that change.

> 
> I infer that what you need is a pte_access_start() and a
> pte_access_end() which look like they can be plausibly rcu_read_lock()
> and rcu_read_unlock(), but might need to be local_irq_save() and
> local_irq_restore() in some configurations?

Yes, except that the local_irq_restore() in PAE-like configurations
(if we need it at all) is not delayed until the pte_access_end() or
pte_unmap() - it's internal to the pte_access_start() or pte_offset_map():
interrupts only disabled across the getting of a consistent pmd entry.

Over-generalizing a little, any user of pte_offset_map() (as opposed to
pte_offset_map_lock()) has to be prepared for the ptes to change under
them: but we do need to give them something that is or was recently the
relevant page table, rather than a random page mishmashed from mismatched
pmd_low and pmd_high.

> 
> We also talked about moving x86 to always RCU-free page tables in
> order to make accessing /proc/$pid/smaps lockless.  I believe Michel
> is going to take a swing at this project.

(And /proc/$pid/numa_maps, I hope: that's even worse in some way, IIRC.)

That might be orthogonal to what I'm doing: many non-x86 architectures
already do RCU-freeing of page tables via the TLB route, but that doesn't
cover a pte_free() from retract_page_tables() or collapse_and_free_pmd().

Hugh


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-11 22:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-10  4:39 Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:42 ` [PATCH 01/23] arm: " Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10 14:28   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-11  3:40     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:43 ` [PATCH 02/23] arm64: allow pte_offset_map() " Hugh Dickins
2023-05-25 16:37   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-05-10  4:45 ` [PATCH 03/23] arm64/hugetlb: pte_alloc_huge() pte_offset_huge() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-25 16:37   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-05-10  4:47 ` [PATCH 04/23] ia64/hugetlb: " Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:48 ` [PATCH 05/23] m68k: allow pte_offset_map[_lock]() to fail Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  7:13   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-11  2:57     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-11  6:53       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10  4:49 ` [PATCH 06/23] microblaze: allow pte_offset_map() " Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:51 ` [PATCH 07/23] mips: update_mmu_cache() can replace __update_tlb() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:52 ` [PATCH 08/23] parisc: add pte_unmap() to balance get_ptep() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-13 21:35   ` Helge Deller
2023-05-14 18:20     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:54 ` [PATCH 09/23] parisc: unmap_uncached_pte() use pte_offset_kernel() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:55 ` [PATCH 10/23] parisc/hugetlb: pte_alloc_huge() pte_offset_huge() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:56 ` [PATCH 11/23] powerpc: kvmppc_unmap_free_pmd() pte_offset_kernel() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:57 ` [PATCH 12/23] powerpc: allow pte_offset_map[_lock]() to fail Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:58 ` [PATCH 13/23] powerpc/hugetlb: pte_alloc_huge() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  4:59 ` [PATCH 14/23] riscv/hugetlb: pte_alloc_huge() pte_offset_huge() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  8:01   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2023-05-10 14:01   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-05-10  5:01 ` [PATCH 15/23] s390: allow pte_offset_map_lock() to fail Hugh Dickins
2023-05-17 10:35   ` Claudio Imbrenda
2023-05-17 21:50     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-23 12:00       ` Claudio Imbrenda
2023-05-24  1:49         ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-25  7:23           ` Claudio Imbrenda
2023-05-10  5:02 ` [PATCH 16/23] s390: gmap use pte_unmap_unlock() not spin_unlock() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-17 11:28   ` Alexander Gordeev
2023-05-10  5:03 ` [PATCH 17/23] sh/hugetlb: pte_alloc_huge() pte_offset_huge() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  5:04 ` [PATCH 18/23] sparc/hugetlb: " Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  5:05 ` [PATCH 19/23] sparc: allow pte_offset_map() to fail Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  5:07 ` [PATCH 20/23] sparc: iounit and iommu use pte_offset_kernel() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  5:08 ` [PATCH 21/23] x86: Allow get_locked_pte() to fail Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  8:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-11  3:16     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-11  7:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-10  5:09 ` [PATCH 22/23] x86: sme_populate_pgd() use pte_offset_kernel() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  5:11 ` [PATCH 23/23] xtensa: add pte_unmap() to balance pte_offset_map() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-10  6:07 ` [PATCH 00/23] arch: allow pte_offset_map[_lock]() to fail Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-11  4:35   ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-11 14:02     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-11 22:37       ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2023-05-12  3:38       ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-16 10:41       ` Peter Zijlstra

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