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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Tianrui Zhao <zhaotianrui@loongson.cn>,
	Bibo Mao <maobibo@loongson.cn>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>,
	Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	loongarch@lists.linux.dev, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, kvm-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] KVM: delete .change_pte MMU notifier callback
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 22:01:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ed763c2-7e01-4c31-923c-ba62f0d0e993@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfYwwXy9gQap-PJyOrVCcUr-VfK90AKNaRe0VO-G00G8SQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 11.04.24 18:55, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 3:56 PM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Paolo,
>>
>> I may miss a bunch of details here (as I still remember some change_pte
>> patches previously on the list..), however not sure whether we considered
>> enable it?  Asked because I remember Andrea used to have a custom tree
>> maintaining that part:
>>
>> https://github.com/aagit/aa/commit/c761078df7a77d13ddfaeebe56a0f4bc128b1968
> 
> The patch enables it only for KSM, so it would still require a bunch
> of cleanups, for example I also would still use set_pte_at() in all
> the places that are not KSM. This would at least fix the issue with
> the poor documentation of where to use set_pte_at_notify() vs
> set_pte_at().
> 
> With regard to the implementation, I like the idea of disabling the
> invalidation on the MMU notifier side, but I would rather have
> MMU_NOTIFIER_CHANGE_PTE as a separate field in the range instead of
> overloading the event field.
> 
>> Maybe it can't be enabled for some reason that I overlooked in the current
>> tree, or we just decided to not to?
> 
> I have just learnt about the patch, nobody had ever mentioned it even
> though it's almost 2 years old... It's a lot of code though and no one

I assume Andrea used it on his tree where he also has a version of 
"randprotect" (even included in that commit subject) to mitigate a KSM 
security issue that was reported by some security researchers [1] a 
while ago. From what I recall, the industry did not end up caring about 
that security issue that much.

IIUC, with "randprotect" we get a lot more R/O protection even when not 
de-duplicating a page -- thus the name. Likely, the reporter mentioned 
in the commit is a researcher that played with Andreas fix for the 
security issue. But I'm just speculating at this point :)

> has ever reported an issue for over 10 years, so I think it's easiest
> to just rip the code out.

Yes. Can always be readded in a possibly cleaner fashion (like you note 
above), when deemed necessary and we are willing to support it.

[1] https://gruss.cc/files/remote_dedup.pdf

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-12 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-05 11:58 [PATCH 0/4] KVM, mm: remove the .change_pte() MMU notifier and set_pte_at_notify() Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-05 11:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] KVM: delete .change_pte MMU notifier callback Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-07  4:50   ` Anup Patel
2024-04-08  7:23   ` maobibo
2024-04-08 11:45   ` Michael Ellerman
2024-04-08 13:56   ` Peter Xu
     [not found]     ` <CABgObfYwwXy9gQap-PJyOrVCcUr-VfK90AKNaRe0VO-G00G8SQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-04-11 18:47       ` Peter Xu
2024-04-12 20:01       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-04-12 10:44   ` Will Deacon
2024-04-12 13:15     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-04-12 14:54       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-13  9:56         ` Marc Zyngier
2024-04-15 17:03           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-18 14:19             ` Will Deacon
2024-04-18 19:53               ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-19 11:24                 ` Will Deacon
2024-04-19 13:58                   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-12 15:22                   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-12 17:31                     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-05 11:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] KVM: remove unused argument of kvm_handle_hva_range() Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-08  6:31   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-04-05 11:58 ` [PATCH 3/4] mmu_notifier: remove the .change_pte() callback Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-08  7:35   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-05 11:58 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: replace set_pte_at_notify() with just set_pte_at() Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-08  6:28   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-04-10 21:30 ` [PATCH 0/4] KVM, mm: remove the .change_pte() MMU notifier and set_pte_at_notify() Andrew Morton
2024-04-11 16:57   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-12 13:07 ` Marc Zyngier

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