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From: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
To: Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] mm: memfd/hugetlb: introduce memfd-based userspace MFR policy
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2026 15:33:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e0fc743-eb44-b69f-01a2-da7b6f2eca8d@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACw3F52K3TTjtmaEsWLcei_ThKwHyn8xj=_4-vpiZhd-ciFU2A@mail.gmail.com>

On 2026/3/23 6:04, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 7:21 PM Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 2026/3/9 23:47, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 12:41 AM Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2026/3/9 12:53, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 11:30 PM Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2026/2/13 13:01, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 11:31 PM Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2026/2/10 12:47, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 3:54 AM Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2026/2/4 3:23, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes immediately hard offlining a large chunk of contigous memory
>>>>>>>>>>> having uncorrected memory errors (UE) may not be the best option.
>>>>>>>>>>> Cloud providers usually serve capacity- and performance-critical guest
>>>>>>>>>>> memory with 1G HugeTLB hugepages, as this significantly reduces the
>>>>>>>>>>> overhead associated with managing page tables and TLB misses. However,
>>>>>>>>>>> for today's HugeTLB system, once a byte of memory in a hugepage is
>>>>>>>>>>> hardware corrupted, the kernel discards the whole hugepage, including
>>>>>>>>>>> the healthy portion. Customer workload running in the VM can hardly
>>>>>>>>>>> recover from such a great loss of memory.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your patch. Some questions below.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore keeping or discarding a large chunk of contiguous memory
>>>>>>>>>>> owned by userspace (particularly to serve guest memory) due to
>>>>>>>>>>> recoverable UE may better be controlled by userspace process
>>>>>>>>>>> that owns the memory, e.g. VMM in the Cloud environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Introduce a memfd-based userspace memory failure (MFR) policy,
>>>>>>>>>>> MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED. It is possible to support for other memfd,
>>>>>>>>>>> but the current implementation only covers HugeTLB.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For a hugepage associated with MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED enabled memfd,
>>>>>>>>>>> whenever it runs into a new UE,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * MFR defers hard offline operations, i.e., unmapping and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So the folio can't be unpoisoned until hugetlb folio becomes free?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you asking from testing perspective, are we still able to clean up
>>>>>>>>> injected test errors via unpoison_memory() with MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If so, unpoison_memory() can't turn the HWPoison hugetlb page to
>>>>>>>>> normal hugetlb page as MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED automatically dissolves
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We might loss some testability but that should be an acceptable compromise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To clarify, looking at unpoison_memory(), it seems unpoison should
>>>>>>> still work if called before truncated or memfd closed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I wanted to say is, for my test hugetlb-mfr.c, since I really
>>>>>>> want to test the cleanup code (dissolving free hugepage having
>>>>>>> multiple errors) after truncation or memfd closed, so we can only
>>>>>>> unpoison the raw pages rejected by buddy allocator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it. unpoison_memory(pfn) can probably still turn the HWPoison raw page
>>>>>>>>> back to a normal one, but you already lost the hugetlb page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   dissolving. MFR still sets HWPoison flag, holds a refcount
>>>>>>>>>>>   for every raw HWPoison page, record them in a list, sends SIGBUS
>>>>>>>>>>>   to the consuming thread, but si_addr_lsb is reduced to PAGE_SHIFT.
>>>>>>>>>>>   If userspace is able to handle the SIGBUS, the HWPoison hugepage
>>>>>>>>>>>   remains accessible via the mapping created with that memfd.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * If the memory was not faulted in yet, the fault handler also
>>>>>>>>>>>   allows fault in the HWPoison folio.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For a MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED enabled memfd, when it is closed, or
>>>>>>>>>>> when userspace process truncates its hugepages:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * When the HugeTLB in-memory file system removes the filemap's
>>>>>>>>>>>   folios one by one, it asks MFR to deal with HWPoison folios
>>>>>>>>>>>   on the fly, implemented by filemap_offline_hwpoison_folio().
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * MFR drops the refcounts being held for the raw HWPoison
>>>>>>>>>>>   pages within the folio. Now that the HWPoison folio becomes
>>>>>>>>>>>   free, MFR dissolves it into a set of raw pages. The healthy pages
>>>>>>>>>>>   are recycled into buddy allocator, while the HWPoison ones are
>>>>>>>>>>>   prevented from re-allocation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +static void filemap_offline_hwpoison_folio_hugetlb(struct folio *folio)
>>>>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>>>>> +     int ret;
>>>>>>>>>>> +     struct llist_node *head;
>>>>>>>>>>> +     struct raw_hwp_page *curr, *next;
>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>> +     /*
>>>>>>>>>>> +      * Since folio is still in the folio_batch, drop the refcount
>>>>>>>>>>> +      * elevated by filemap_get_folios.
>>>>>>>>>>> +      */
>>>>>>>>>>> +     folio_put_refs(folio, 1);
>>>>>>>>>>> +     head = llist_del_all(raw_hwp_list_head(folio));
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We might race with get_huge_page_for_hwpoison()? llist_add() might be called
>>>>>>>>>> by folio_set_hugetlb_hwpoison() just after llist_del_all()?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, when there is a new UE while we releasing the folio here, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In that case, would mutex_lock(&mf_mutex) eliminate potential race?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IMO spin_lock_irq(&hugetlb_lock) might be better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like I don't need any lock given the correction below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>> +     /*
>>>>>>>>>>> +      * Release refcounts held by try_memory_failure_hugetlb, one per
>>>>>>>>>>> +      * HWPoison-ed page in the raw hwp list.
>>>>>>>>>>> +      *
>>>>>>>>>>> +      * Set HWPoison flag on each page so that free_has_hwpoisoned()
>>>>>>>>>>> +      * can exclude them during dissolve_free_hugetlb_folio().
>>>>>>>>>>> +      */
>>>>>>>>>>> +     llist_for_each_entry_safe(curr, next, head, node) {
>>>>>>>>>>> +             folio_put(folio);
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The hugetlb folio refcnt will only be increased once even if it contains multiple UE sub-pages.
>>>>>>>>>> See __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison() for details. So folio_put() might be called more times than
>>>>>>>>>> folio_try_get() in __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison().
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The changes in folio_set_hugetlb_hwpoison() should make
>>>>>>>>> __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison() not to take the "out" path which
>>>>>>>>> decrease the increased refcount for folio. IOW, every time a new UE
>>>>>>>>> happens, we handle the hugetlb page as if it is an in-use hugetlb
>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See below code snippet (comment [1] and [2]):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> int __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison(unsigned long pfn, int flags,
>>>>>>>>                                  bool *migratable_cleared)
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>         struct page *page = pfn_to_page(pfn);
>>>>>>>>         struct folio *folio = page_folio(page);
>>>>>>>>         int ret = 2;    /* fallback to normal page handling */
>>>>>>>>         bool count_increased = false;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         if (!folio_test_hugetlb(folio))
>>>>>>>>                 goto out;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         if (flags & MF_COUNT_INCREASED) {
>>>>>>>>                 ret = 1;
>>>>>>>>                 count_increased = true;
>>>>>>>>         } else if (folio_test_hugetlb_freed(folio)) {
>>>>>>>>                 ret = 0;
>>>>>>>>         } else if (folio_test_hugetlb_migratable(folio)) {
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                    ^^^^*hugetlb_migratable is checked before trying to get folio refcnt* [1]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 ret = folio_try_get(folio);
>>>>>>>>                 if (ret)
>>>>>>>>                         count_increased = true;
>>>>>>>>         } else {
>>>>>>>>                 ret = -EBUSY;
>>>>>>>>                 if (!(flags & MF_NO_RETRY))
>>>>>>>>                         goto out;
>>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         if (folio_set_hugetlb_hwpoison(folio, page)) {
>>>>>>>>                 ret = -EHWPOISON;
>>>>>>>>                 goto out;
>>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         /*
>>>>>>>>          * Clearing hugetlb_migratable for hwpoisoned hugepages to prevent them
>>>>>>>>          * from being migrated by memory hotremove.
>>>>>>>>          */
>>>>>>>>         if (count_increased && folio_test_hugetlb_migratable(folio)) {
>>>>>>>>                 folio_clear_hugetlb_migratable(folio);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 ^^^^^*hugetlb_migratable is cleared when first time seeing folio* [2]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 *migratable_cleared = true;
>>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or am I miss something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your explaination! You are absolutely right. It turns out
>>>>>>> the extra refcount I saw (during running hugetlb-mfr.c) on the folio
>>>>>>> at the moment of filemap_offline_hwpoison_folio_hugetlb() is actually
>>>>>>> because of the MF_COUNT_INCREASED during MADV_HWPOISON. In the past I
>>>>>>> used to think that is the effect of folio_try_get() in
>>>>>>> __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison(), and it is wrong. Now I see two cases:
>>>>>>> - MADV_HWPOISON: instead of __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison(),
>>>>>>> madvise_inject_error() is the one that increments hugepage refcount
>>>>>>> for every error injected. Different from other cases,
>>>>>>> MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED makes the hugepage still a in-use page after
>>>>>>> memory_failure(MF_COUNT_INCREASED), so I think madvise_inject_error()
>>>>>>> should decrement in MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED case.
>>>>>>> - In the real world: as you pointed out, MF always just increments
>>>>>>> hugepage refcount once in __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison(), even if it
>>>>>>> runs into multiple errors. When
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This might not always hold true. When MF occurs while hugetlb folio is under isolation(hugetlb_migratable is
>>>>>> cleared and extra folio refcnt is held by isolating code in that case), __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison won't get
>>>>>> extra folio refcnt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> filemap_offline_hwpoison_folio_hugetlb() drops the refcount elevated
>>>>>>> by filemap_get_folios(), it only needs to decrement again if
>>>>>>> folio_ref_dec_and_test() returns false. I tested something like below:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     /* drop the refcount elevated by filemap_get_folios. */
>>>>>>>     folio_put(folio);
>>>>>>>     if (folio_ref_count(folio))
>>>>>>>         folio_put(folio);
>>>>>>>     /* now refcount should be zero. */
>>>>>>>     ret = dissolve_free_hugetlb_folio(folio);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I think above code might drop the folio refcnt held by isolating code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Miaohe, thanks for raising the concern. Given two things below
>>>>> - both folio_isolate_hugetlb() and get_huge_page_for_hwpoison() are
>>>>> guarded by hugetlb_lock.
>>>>> - hugetlb_update_hwpoison() only folio_test_set_hwpoison() for
>>>>> non-isolated folio after folio_try_get() succeeds.
>>>>>
>>>>> as long as folio_test_set_hwpoison() is true here, this refcount
>>>>> should never come from folio_isolate_hugetlb(). What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let's think about below scenario. When __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison() encounters an
>>>> isolated hugetlb folio:
>>>>
>>>> int __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison(unsigned long pfn, int flags,
>>>>                                  bool *migratable_cleared)
>>>> {
>>>>         struct page *page = pfn_to_page(pfn);
>>>>         struct folio *folio = page_folio(page);
>>>>         bool count_increased = false;
>>>>         int ret, rc;
>>>>
>>>>         if (!folio_test_hugetlb(folio)) {
>>>>                 ret = MF_HUGETLB_NON_HUGEPAGE;
>>>>                 goto out;
>>>>         } else if (flags & MF_COUNT_INCREASED) {
>>>>                 ret = MF_HUGETLB_IN_USED;
>>>>                 count_increased = true;
>>>>         } else if (folio_test_hugetlb_freed(folio)) {
>>>>                 ret = MF_HUGETLB_FREED;
>>>>         } else if (folio_test_hugetlb_migratable(folio)) {
>>>>
>>>>                    ^^^^*Since hugetlb_migratable is cleared for the isolated hugetlb folio*
>>>>
>>>>                 if (folio_try_get(folio)) {
>>>>                         ret = MF_HUGETLB_IN_USED;
>>>>                         count_increased = true;
>>>>                 } else {
>>>>                         ret = MF_HUGETLB_FREED;
>>>>                 }
>>>>         } else {
>>>>
>>>>                   ^^^^*Code will reach here without extra refcnt increased*
>>>>
>>>>                 ret = MF_HUGETLB_RETRY;
>>>>                 if (!(flags & MF_NO_RETRY))
>>>>                         goto out;
>>>>         }
>>>>
>>>>         *Code will reach here after retry*
>>>
>>> You are right, thanks for pointing that out. Let me think about more
>>> how to handle this.
> 
> I was struggling to find a good fix, as I really don't want to memoize
> into the folio that if memory_failure has elevated a refcount.
> 
>>>
>>>>         rc = hugetlb_update_hwpoison(folio, page);
>>>>         if (rc >= MF_HUGETLB_FOLIO_PRE_POISONED) {
>>>>                 ret = rc;
>>>>                 goto out;
>>>>         }
>>>>
>>>> So hugetlb_update_hwpoison() will be called even for folio under isolation
>>>> without folio_try_get(). Or am I miss something?
>>>
>>> Just a random question: if MF never increments a hugepage's refcount,
>>
>> MF will hold hugetlb folio's refcount unless it's freed or isolated.
> 
> A random thought. For an isolated hugetlb folio, if it becomes
> hwpoison (after __get_huge_page_for_hwpoison() failed with retries),
> and then `folio_putback_hugetlb()` is called, should we block setting
> migratable and putting it back to hugepage_activelist? IWO, make it
> forever isolated and just decrement refcount:
> 
>  void folio_putback_hugetlb(struct folio *folio)
>  {
>         spin_lock_irq(&hugetlb_lock);
> -       folio_set_hugetlb_migratable(folio);
> -       list_move_tail(&folio->lru,
> &(folio_hstate(folio))->hugepage_activelist);
> +       if (!folio_test_hwpoison(folio)) {
> +               folio_set_hugetlb_migratable(folio);
> +               list_move_tail(&folio->lru,
> &(folio_hstate(folio))->hugepage_activelist);
> +       }

Will it also block the hugetlb folio from being freed and dissolved later
when last folio refcnt is gone?

>         spin_unlock_irq(&hugetlb_lock);
>         folio_put(folio);
> 
> (Maybe the event "become hwpoison => folio_putback_hugetlb()" can never happen?)
> 
> If so, as a side effect, I can use folio_putback_hugetlb() to
> decrement the refcount even if we are uncertain that the residue
> refcount is whether from memory_failure or folio_isolate_hugetlb().

What if the caller of folio_isolate_hugetlb() has called folio_putback_hugetlb() before
us? Can we tell that apart?

Thanks.
.



  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-30  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-03 19:23 [PATCH v3 0/3] memfd-based Userspace MFR Policy for HugeTLB Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-03 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] mm: memfd/hugetlb: introduce memfd-based userspace MFR policy Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-04 17:29   ` William Roche
2026-02-10  4:46     ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-09 11:54   ` Miaohe Lin
2026-02-10  4:47     ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-10  7:31       ` Miaohe Lin
2026-02-13  5:01         ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-24  7:30           ` Miaohe Lin
2026-03-09  4:53             ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-03-09  7:41               ` Miaohe Lin
2026-03-09 15:47                 ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-03-10  2:21                   ` Miaohe Lin
2026-03-22 22:04                     ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-03-30  7:33                       ` Miaohe Lin [this message]
2026-02-03 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] selftests/mm: test userspace MFR for HugeTLB hugepage Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-04 17:53   ` William Roche
2026-02-12  3:11     ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-09 12:01   ` Miaohe Lin
2026-02-12  3:17     ` Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-03 19:23 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] Documentation: add documentation for MFD_MF_KEEP_UE_MAPPED Jiaqi Yan
2026-02-04 17:56   ` William Roche

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