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For now, it applies to all >>>>>>> VMs in arm64 that use guest_memfd. In the future, new VM types >>>>>>> can restrict this via kvm_arch_gmem_supports_shared_mem(). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Fuad Tabba >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 10 ++++++++++ >>>>>>> arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig | 1 + >>>>>>> 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h >>>>>>> index 08ba91e6fb03..2514779f5131 100644 >>>>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h >>>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h >>>>>>> @@ -1593,4 +1593,14 @@ static inline bool kvm_arch_has_irq_bypass(void) >>>>>>> return true; >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +static inline bool kvm_arch_supports_gmem(struct kvm *kvm) >>>>>>> +{ >>>>>>> + return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM_GMEM); >>>>>>> +} >>>>>>> + >>>>>>> +static inline bool kvm_arch_vm_supports_gmem_shared_mem(struct kvm *kvm) >>>>>>> +{ >>>>>>> + return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM_GMEM_SHARED_MEM); >>>>>>> +} >>>>>>> + >>>>>>> #endif /* __ARM64_KVM_HOST_H__ */ >>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig >>>>>>> index 096e45acadb2..8c1e1964b46a 100644 >>>>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig >>>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig >>>>>>> @@ -38,6 +38,7 @@ menuconfig KVM >>>>>>> select HAVE_KVM_VCPU_RUN_PID_CHANGE >>>>>>> select SCHED_INFO >>>>>>> select GUEST_PERF_EVENTS if PERF_EVENTS >>>>>>> + select KVM_GMEM_SHARED_MEM >>>>>>> help >>>>>>> Support hosting virtualized guest machines. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Do we have to reject somewhere if we are given a guest_memfd that was >>>>>> *not* created using the SHARED flag? Or will existing checks already >>>>>> reject that? >>>>> >>>>> We don't reject, but I don't think we need to. A user can create a >>>>> guest_memfd that's private in arm64, it would just be useless. >>>> >>>> But the arm64 fault routine would not be able to handle that properly, no? >>> >>> Actually it would. The function user_mem_abort() doesn't care whether >>> it's private or shared. It would fault it into the guest correctly >>> regardless. >> >> >> I think what I meant is that: if it's !shared (private only), shared >> accesses (IOW all access without CoCo) should be taken from the user >> space mapping. >> >> But user_mem_abort() would blindly go to kvm_gmem_get_pfn() because >> "is_gmem = kvm_slot_has_gmem(memslot) = true". > > Yes, since it is a gmem-backed slot. > >> In other words, arm64 would have to *ignore* guest_memfd that does not >> support shared? >> >> That's why I was wondering whether we should just immediately refuse >> such guest_memfds. > > My thinking is that if a user deliberately creates a > guest_memfd-backed slot without designating it as being sharable, then > either they would find out when they try to map that memory to the > host userspace (mapping it would fail), or it could be that they > deliberately want to set up a VM with memslots that not mappable at > all by the host. Hm. But that would meant that we interpret "private" memory as a concept that is not understood by the VM. Because the VM does not know what "private" memory is ... > Perhaps to add some layer of security (although a > very flimsy one, since it's not a confidential guest). Exactly my point. If you don't want to mmap it then ... don't mmap it :) > > I'm happy to a check to prevent this. The question is, how to do it > exactly (I assume it would be in kvm_gmem_create())? Would it be > arch-specific, i.e., prevent arm64 from creating non-shared > guest_memfd backed memslots? Or do it by VM type? Even if we do it by > VM-type it would need to be arch-specific, since we allow private > guest_memfd slots for the default VM in x86, but we wouldn't for > arm64. > > We could add another function, along the lines of > kvm_arch_supports_gmem_only_shared_mem(), but considering that it > actually works, and (arguably) would behave as intended, I'm not sure > if it's worth the complexity. > > What do you think? My thinking was to either block this at slot creation time or at guest_memfd creation time. And we should probably block that for other VM types as well that do not support private memory? I mean, creating guest_memfd for private memory when there is no concept of private memory for the VM is ... weird, no? :) -- Cheers, David / dhildenb