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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, willy@infradead.org,
	liam.howlett@oracle.com, mhocko@suse.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, mjguzik@gmail.com, oliver.sang@intel.com,
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	oleg@redhat.com, dave@stgolabs.net, paulmck@kernel.org,
	brauner@kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com, hdanton@sina.com,
	hughd@google.com, minchan@google.com, jannh@google.com,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, souravpanda@google.com,
	pasha.tatashin@soleen.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 15:01:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d34da83-92eb-4666-816c-73a0e831aa89@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <637370b8-3e3e-4457-81d6-5913a3ff1d4e@lucifer.local>

On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 02:28:16PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 11:46:32AM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > Back when per-vma locks were introduces, vm_lock was moved out of
> > vm_area_struct in [1] because of the performance regression caused by
> > false cacheline sharing. Recent investigation [2] revealed that the
> > regressions is limited to a rather old Broadwell microarchitecture and
> > even there it can be mitigated by disabling adjacent cacheline
> > prefetching, see [3].
>
> I don't see a motivating reason as to why we want to do this? We increase
> memory usage here which is not good, but later lock optimisation mitigates
> it, but why wouldn't we just do the lock optimisations and use less memory
> overall?

I worded this badly. To clarify:

I don't see a motivating reason _in the commit message_ as to why we want
to do this.

I am certain there are, in fact Mateusz and Vlastimil have provided them.

So my review is - let's just put these there :)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-13 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-12 19:46 [PATCH v2 0/5] " Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: introduce vma_start_read_locked{_nested} helpers Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:10   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:30     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:28   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 14:45     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 14:58       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:09         ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 14:53     ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-11-13 14:59       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:01     ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2024-11-13 15:45       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 15:42     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: mark vma as detached until it's added into vma tree Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-13 15:37     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: make vma cache SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  2:57   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  5:08     ` Hugh Dickins
2024-11-13  6:03       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  6:52         ` Hugh Dickins
2024-11-13  8:19           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13  8:58   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 12:38     ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 13:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-13 15:22         ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 15:25           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 15:29             ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-13 15:47               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 19:05                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-14 16:18                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-14 16:21                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-13 16:44           ` Jann Horn
2024-11-13 20:59             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-13 21:23               ` Jann Horn
2024-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] docs/mm: document latest changes to vm_lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 19:51   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-13 14:46     ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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