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From: "GONG, Ruiqi" <gongruiqi@huaweicloud.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E . Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Wang Weiyang <wangweiyang2@huawei.com>,
	Xiu Jianfeng <xiujianfeng@huawei.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gongruiqi1@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] Randomized slab caches for kmalloc()
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 20:01:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5c222541-4add-2ca6-90a1-faf11e0b5319@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202306221307.6CF63BAC20@keescook>



On 2023/06/23 4:10, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 03:56:04PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 6/16/23 13:18, GONG, Ruiqi wrote:
>>> index a3c95338cd3a..6150e9a946a7 100644
>>> --- a/mm/Kconfig
>>> +++ b/mm/Kconfig
>>> @@ -337,6 +337,55 @@ config SLUB_CPU_PARTIAL
>>>  	  which requires the taking of locks that may cause latency spikes.
>>>  	  Typically one would choose no for a realtime system.
>>>  
>>> +config RANDOM_KMALLOC_CACHES
>>> +	default n
>>> +	depends on SLUB
>>> +	bool "Random slab caches for normal kmalloc"
>>> +	help
>>> +	  A hardening feature that creates multiple copies of slab caches for
>>> +	  normal kmalloc allocation and makes kmalloc randomly pick one based
>>> +	  on code address, which makes the attackers unable to spray vulnerable
>>> +	  memory objects on the heap for exploiting memory vulnerabilities.
>>> +
>>> +choice
>>> +	prompt "Number of random slab caches copies"
>>> +	depends on RANDOM_KMALLOC_CACHES
>>> +	default RANDOM_KMALLOC_CACHES_16
>>> +	help
>>> +	  The number of copies of random slab caches. Bigger value makes the
>>> +	  potentially vulnerable memory object less likely to collide with
>>> +	  objects allocated from other subsystems or modules.
>>
>> When I read this, without further knowledge, why would I select anything
>> else than the largest value? It should mention memory overhead maybe?
> 
> Yeah, good idea.
> 

No problem. Will add some text about memory overhead into the help
paragraph of RANDOM_KMALLOC_CACHES.

>> Also would anyone really select only "2" and thus limit the collision
>> probability to 50% and not less? "4" also seems quite low for the given
>> purpose? Could we just pick and hardcode 8 or 16 and avoid the selection, at
>> least until there's some more experience with the whole approach?
> 
> I assume it was for doing performance (speed or space) analysis for
> people interested in tuning it. The default is 16, which is what most
> folks will end up with. i.e. I'm not sure I see a benefit to dropping 2
> and 4, since I imagine people will either want the highest value (16),
> or the ability to do a full comparison of each setting.
> 
> Regardless, I would be fine if we dropped 2 and 4, since I am focused on
> the maximum number (16) of hash buckets. :)
> 

It's true that 2 and 4 don't make much sense from the hardening
perspective, and I added them only to cover all possible choices. And
since the overhead difference between 8 and 16 is small, I will hardcode
16 and drop all other options in the next version.

> -Kees
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-25 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-16 11:18 [PATCH v3 0/1] " GONG, Ruiqi
2023-06-16 11:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/1] " GONG, Ruiqi
2023-06-21 18:21   ` Kees Cook
2023-06-25 11:25     ` GONG, Ruiqi
2023-06-22 13:56   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-06-22 20:10     ` Kees Cook
2023-06-25 12:01       ` GONG, Ruiqi [this message]
2023-06-23  8:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] " Markus Elfring
2023-06-26  0:56   ` GONG, Ruiqi
2023-06-26  9:18     ` [v3 " Markus Elfring

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